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annony

@myvzw.com

HAMS save the world ... right

Have yet to see an *independent* source/orgranization acknowledge HAM operaters as helping out. Still stands in my book as totally bogus. I've seen this argument again and again and right after disasters see HAMS here slaping each other on the back for saving the world. And I repeatly ask please show me one URL from an *independent* *organization* acknowledging their contribution. Oh the best I've then seen after commenting that ARRL is NOT and independent and other HAMS blogs is NOT an organization is comments about you "TROLL"

jacour

join:2001-12-11
Ypsilanti, MI
·Comcast

On behalf of my office at the Federal Emergency Management Agency and
as a veteran, I would like to offer a heartfelt thanks to all of you
who volunteered your time, service, and equipment to do all the hard
work and spend the many long hours to helping with the aftermath of
the attacks on the Pentagon, the World Trade Center, and the aircraft
that crashed in western Pennsylvania.

It takes a dedicated, strong, and highly patriotic person to give up
his or her normal family and work life and make a special effort to
travel daily to help at the disaster relief operations sites. While
many rushed home to be with their families, you rushed to aid the
authorities deal with the disaster. I understand the conditions were
difficult at best, but those of you who volunteered did so in the
best traditional spirit of Amateur Radio and served as exemplary
patriots -- you all pulled together and made it happen. I cannot
emphasize enough how significant your service was and how large a
contribution you made. I have talked up your support with other
Federal agencies when the opportunities presented themselves. For
this valiant effort, you all deserve a big thank you from the rest of
us who are honored by your service. Thanks also for keeping your
call-down rosters and emergency plans updated and your 'go kit' ready.

You're a great group of hams. You showed the cowardly terrorists
that we will prevail. You made ham radio proud, you made America
proud, and you made us all proud to be a fellow Amateur Radio
operator. Hooyah!

73 de Bart, N3GQ

Curt Bartholomew
National Security Division
Office of National Preparedness
Federal Emergency Management Agency


dingus_b

@swbell.net


1 edit
reply to annony
Try google sometime. Here are three to keep you busy.

»www.delta-sky.com/2006_02/RolePl···dex.html

»www.scgovernor.com/uploads/procl···2005.pdf

»www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ar···06d.html


femabrother

@midco.net

reply to jacour
Callsign Results [ULS DATABASE]

Callsign File Number Applicant Type Service
N3GQ I HV
Licensee Name Address PO Box City
BARTHOLOMEW, CURTIS R 18 BRIDGEPORT CIRCLE STAFFORD
State Zip Grant Date Expire Date
VA 225541776 May 13, 2000 May 13, 2010
NEPA Flag Trustee License ID Previous Callsign Operator Class
AF4RE E
Group Previous Operator Class Eligibility Code Trustee Ind
A A E Y
Trustee_license_id

1 Row(s) were Retrieved

»gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe···ign=N3GQ

»hamcall.net/call?callsign=N3GQ

»www.herrons.com/users/kevin/radio/FEMA.html

W1RFI

join:2003-05-12
Burlington, CT

reply to annony
> Have yet to see an *independent* source/orgranization
> acknowledge HAM operaters as helping out.

Then you haven't looked:

»www.house.gov/israel/news/091905···adio.htm
»www.ntia.doc.gov/openness/sp_rqm···er6.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/redcro.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/weather.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/ncsmem.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/FE···SOA1.pdf
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/apco.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/nartemou.pdf
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/sbe.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/CAP.pdf
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/salarmy.html
»www.arrl.org/FandES/field/mou/react.html
»www.arrl.org/pio/press_releases/···603.html

The work done by Amateurs on a regular basis is documented on ARRL's web page at »www.arrl.org. A good summary of that work is seen at:

»p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/emcomm.html

The BPL industry has chosen to deploy under rules that require that it:

o Meet emissions limits - COMTek did not.
o Not cause harmful interference - That occurred in Manassas
o Correct harmful interference - The FCC didn't buy their correcting it with press releases.
o Accept any interference caused to it

Those were the ground rules going in. The FCC had an opportunity to change those rules, had it decided that BPL was important enought that it should be given privileges that are not given to any other unlicensed system, including competitors of BPL. The FCC did not make such a change.

For a company to deploy under the FCC rules that permit unlicensed devices to exist, then claim that it is not fair to follow those rules may tell us all what we need to know.

The real issue is that -- at least for Amateur Radio -- BPL can be done without interference. Unlike COMTek, other companies have been very cooperative with licensed users and the results have been successful deployments.

Motorola designed its system working coopertively with ARRL. Current Technologies and IBEC use HomePlug technology, which has digital filtering for the Amateur Bands. There are electric utility companies and BPL operator ISPs that regularly communicate and work with ARRL. ARRL has installed a Motorola BPL system at its headquarters. Current Technologies has deployed in Cincinnati, OH past about 60,000 homes with no major interference problems.

Current is the most successful BPL company in the US. It used HomePlug technology. Several years ago, ARRL worked with HomePlug to help them understand what was needed to protect Amateur Radio. See:

»p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/rfi/HomePlug···ARRL.pdf

It is ironic that the most successful BPL company is basing its success in part on work that ARRL did years before BPL was envisioned for access Internet.

All the talk about "we don't need ham radio" is smoke and mirrors, diverting attention from the real issue: The spectrum below 30 MHz is unique. It is the only spectrum that is capable of worldwide communications without the need for intermediate technology between the source and destination points.

Under the rules, the FCC has wisely kept the require that unlicensed devices, although they may generate some noise, cannot cause harmful interference to licensed services. This is far more than an Amateur Radio issue, as the spectrum in use includes government, military, commercial, aviation, CB, international shortwave broadcast and, of course, Amateur Radio. On low VHF, public service and business make use of 30-50 MHz, as does BPL in some areas. ALL of that is is at risk, and I have personally seen even the "benign" BPL wiping out the ability to receive international shortwave broadcasts in an entire neighborhood or three.

In its last report, the FCC reported that there are about 5000 BPL lines in the country as of June last year. That is about 0.01% of the total broadband lines. In the interim, one major deployment of BPL -- the commercial deployment in Allentown, PA, was shut down, although other deployments have been put in place in the meantime. IDACOM also pulled the plug on its interest in BPL, with its parent corportation annoucing that this cost IDACORP stockholders $10,000,000. It is NOT, IMHO, appropriate to change the rules that govern all unlicensed devices to allow BPL to cause harm to licensed radio users.

ARRL's information on BPL is extensive: »www.arrl.org/bpl

Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318
Email: W1RFI@arrl.org
Note to moderator: My contact info is widely posted, so no need to fear the spambots on my account. Okay to leave in the info, if you wish.

David95037

join:2003-04-16
Morgan Hill, CA
·Be There

said by W1RFI See Profile :

> .

ARRL's information on BPL is extensive: »www.arrl.org/bpl

Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab
Ed Hare is probably one of the smartest and most knowledgeable radio engineers around today, he sits numerous IEEE committees and even works with the Society of Automotive Engineers to ensure that car safety is not compromised by EMC issues.

He takes to time to post detailed and accurate information on BPL pollution and its effects and puts his full contact information on his posts.

In contrast, never once in all of the BPL discussions has a representative of any BPL company or organization ever posted to Broadband Reports and identified themselves.

KB2PSM

join:2002-08-06
Long Beach, NY

Except that markopoleo and his ilk are not interested in expert testimony, the laws of physics, the laws of the land, common sense and the truth; so to him, Ed Hare is irrelevant to the argument and debate.

said by David95037 See Profile :

said by W1RFI See Profile :

> .

ARRL's information on BPL is extensive: »www.arrl.org/bpl

Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab
Ed Hare is probably one of the smartest and most knowledgeable radio engineers around today, he sits numerous IEEE committees and even works with the Society of Automotive Engineers to ensure that car safety is not compromised by EMC issues.

He takes to time to post detailed and accurate information on BPL pollution and its effects and puts his full contact information on his posts.

In contrast, never once in all of the BPL discussions has a representative of any BPL company or organization ever posted to Broadband Reports and identified themselves.
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