toadlife
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Re: FIRST POST
said by deepblackmag  :The bandwidth has been available for a long time, for dirt cheap. Why dont people start asking the right question? How is it i can buy symmetrical 100mbps with a 2000GB/month cap for under 100$/month from a 13 yr old @ a datacenter, but a big company wont sell that sort of thing to my home? It about the "last mile" and how much that "last mile" costs. Data centers pay a pretty penny to have fiber run directly into their building and they make up for it by reselling that bandwidth in volume. That "10 meg pipe" you pay 13.99 a month for is not all yours - it is shared with several other people who are also paying 13.99 a month.
Right now, it is impossible to give 100mbit speeds to the homes because the copper/coaxial cables that run into them simply can't handle that much data. Coaxial is a bit better than telco copper, but not that much better. Both are dead end mediums and must be replaced with fiber before any massive rollout of 100bit+ service is even possible.
If you want 100mbit speeds to your house, call up the telco and get a quote on how much it will cost to run fiber to your home.
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
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| Well, Verizon has found Coax good for 270Mbps and is now using it inside the home rather than fiber, to cut costs.
Name me a telco that has technology that can deliver anywhere NEAR that figure (even theoretically).
You are right that fiber all the way is the wave of the future. But for the forseeable future, Cable has a marked advantage vis-a-vi the bandwidth it COULD offer the end user over existing infrastructures. |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
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WRONG WRONG WRONG The last mile thats in the ground RIGHT NOW can handle it. The twisted pairs and coax is just fine, the only problem is the equipment at their substations and in peoples houses. Upgrade that and they are good to go. You dont need fiber for 100mbps. The copper thats there work just fine. |
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toadlife
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said by pabster :Well, Verizon has found Coax good for 270Mbps and is now using it inside the home rather than fiber, to cut costs. Name me a telco that has technology that can deliver anywhere NEAR that figure (even theoretically). RJ45. The telcos can run fiber to the outside of the home and RJ45 into the house. Sure, there is a cost of running that RJ45 into the house, but it's not a show stopper.
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toadlife
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said by deepblackmag :WRONG WRONG WRONG The last mile thats in the ground RIGHT NOW can handle it. The twisted pairs and coax is just fine, the only problem is the equipment at their substations and in peoples houses. Upgrade that and they are good to go. You dont need fiber for 100mbps. The copper thats there work just fine. Sure if you tack enough equipment onto copper to keep the signal/noise ratio down, you may be able to push 100mbits of data through it, but it won't be very reliable and it will probably be more expensive to keep up than just running fiber.
Copper is not reliable, it has major distance limitations, and can't hold one millionth of the bandwidth that fiber can. It's a dead end medium. The sooner is goes away, the better.
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deepblackmag
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00000 | I agree its not as reliable, however it IS cheap and already there. And thats what matters here. |
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| said by deepblackmag :I agree its not as reliable, however it IS cheap and already there. And thats what matters here. You really wanna know the cost analysis of it ? Verizon when the fiber is completely rolled out to a neighborhood can pull down the copper at its own discretion and scrap it for almost 2/3 the price of the fiber. Severely reducing the costs of running the fiber the rest of the way.
I find it amazing that they don't do this. When an area is lit with fiber give the people a free install of new service, pull all the copper and scrap it. And lower the peoples bills by $2 a month and consider it a free "upgrade". I mean really think of it as getting a faster return on your money.
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