m00kie
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|  Suggestion for Team Names
As many of you know, the only way to keep a team's stats consolidated in BOINC across projects is for the team to have the identical name in each of those projects.
Thus far here are the team names:
Broadbandreports.com Team CPDN (CPDN)
DSLReports.com Team Helix (Rosetta@Home)
Broadbandreports.com Team Starfire (Seti@Home, Einstein@Home, LHC)
Why not just name all those teams Broadbandreports.com or DSLReports.com (if management prefers). It will give us a much stronger presence in the DC world of BOINC.
Mind you, I am not saying Starfire would stop being Starfire nor would Team Helix stop being Team Helix. The forum and what we call ourselves would be the same. The only change is what we call ourselves on the stat pages of the projects' homes. What do you think?
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| Predictor@Home is Team StarFire at present (that would be a good idea if approved)  |
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My guess is the DCS would have to take this and discuss it. I agree that we should go with a name like BroadBandReports.com or DSLReports.com so the stats would be consolidated. |
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Justakiwi
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I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping the Starfire, Helix etc, but I think there should be consistency with the Broadbandreports/DSLReports part of the name. Given that we supposedly moved from DSLReports to Broadbandreports some time back, I think all teams should sport the Broadbandreports title.
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m00kie
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| said by Justakiwi  :I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping the Starfire, Helix etc, but I think there should be consistency with the Broadbandreports/DSLReports part of the name. Given that we supposedly moved from DSLReports to Broadbandreports some time back, I think all teams should sport the Broadbandreports title. That's why I said that part of the decision was up to management (Justin) as to which he would prefer. Starfire would still be Starfire with their own forum and team name. The same would apply to Team CPDN or Team Helix. They would still keep their names in their forums, etc. The only change would be that at the project page where you join a team, all three teams would have the same name. You could even still use your team name in the description field of the project's pages.
So, for example, at the Seti@Home page for Starfire »setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_joi···id=30192 the team name could be BroadbandReports.com and then in the description field it could say "Team Starfire - broadband users crunching to find ET". A similar thing could be done at Rosetta, etc.
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MikeC
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I think it gives more to the site and after all we are just guests.  |
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A part of the problem is that DSLR Team Helix cannot change its name as the "founder" took the key and ran off,unwilling to let us change. So,for continuity we are using DSLR R@H in order to keep it simple in our forum. Keep in mind,all teams were originally DSLR teams and we have stayed true for the last 5+ years while everyone else has changed names.
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m00kie
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| said by Icarus :A part of the problem is that DSLR Team Helix cannot change its name as the "founder" took the key and ran off,unwilling to let us change. So,for continuity we are using DSLR R@H in order to keep it simple in our forum. Keep in mind,all teams were originally DSLR teams and we have stayed true for the last 5+ years while everyone else has changed names. Sorry to hear of the founder trouble at Folding@Home. I think DSLReports.com would be a fine name. Since both the Folding team and the Rosetta team are both official BBR teams then obviously the DSLReports.com name has official approval. Can I assume you would be amenable to the idea of the Rosetta team name at the project's url being DSLReports.com? |
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| said by m00kie :said by Icarus :A part of the problem is that DSLR Team Helix cannot change its name as the "founder" took the key and ran off,unwilling to let us change. So,for continuity we are using DSLR R@H in order to keep it simple in our forum. Keep in mind,all teams were originally DSLR teams and we have stayed true for the last 5+ years while everyone else has changed names. Sorry to hear of the founder trouble at Folding@Home. I think DSLReports.com would be a fine name. Since both the Folding team and the Rosetta team are both official BBR teams then obviously the DSLReports.com name has official approval. Can I assume you would be amenable to the idea of the Rosetta team name at the project's url being DSLReports.com? I don't understand that. If this forum is now known as Broadbandreports not DSLReports, and all these teams were formed under the forum umbrella as it were - how can any team founder have any control over the team name, especially if he is no longer involved? It makes no sense to me that ANY team is still using the DSLReports title. If we want to be seen "out there" and recognised, then it makes sense to use ONE name only.
If there was to be any consolidation of team names for BOINC I would like to see them use the Broadbandreports title - tagged with their team name. For example: Broadbandreports Team Helix, Broadbandreports Team Starfire etc. That way the teams are all obviously BBR teams, but retain their own project identity.
If we're going to have a mix of Broadbandreports and DSLReports titles, or switch all teams to DSLReports - when that's not who we are anymore, then I don't see any point in changing anything.
It's not a huge deal to me, but I don't see any point in changing something unless you're improving it. JMHO!
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said by Icarus :A part of the problem is that DSLR Team Helix cannot change its name as the "founder" took the key and ran off,unwilling to let us change. So,for continuity we are using DSLR R@H in order to keep it simple in our forum. Keep in mind,all teams were originally DSLR teams and we have stayed true for the last 5+ years while everyone else has changed names. As mentioned by mOOkie we can use the description 'DSL team helix' with the official name 'BroadbandReports.com'. This makes sense to me at least as long as identical team names are the only way to link BOINC teams cross project.
I would rather have something more to the name though 'BroadbandReports.com BOINCers' or something. |
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| Well, the original BBR DC team was simply named DSL Reports and that worked fine. I'd certainly be in favour of keeping the official team names, at least for the BOINC teams, named either BroadbandReports.com or DSLReports.com, whichever Justin favours (that was BroadbandReports.com last time I checked). If we wanted to add something to it, then maybe Team BroadbandReports.com or BroadbandReports.com DC or BOINC.
I can certainly understand that Team Helix can't do anything with the name of it's original project, but I should think that keeping that team name in the description for any adopted BOINC teams might suffice. It would be good for the BOINC teams to have consolidated stats though. And keeping the team names simply the url for the site might help to draw people to BBR.
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m00kie
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BroadbandReports.com BOINCers
BroadbandReports.com BOINC
BroadbandReports.com DC
They all sound great to me thus far  (assuming Justin prefers the BBR moniker over DSLR)
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m00kie
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NOTE: There is additional discussion here --> »[R@H] Would like your opinions |
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preface: just IMO
"If there was to be any consolidation of team names for BOINC I would like to see them use the Broadbandreports title - tagged with their team name"
I agree, we are separate teams here and running different projects as decided by the teams that are here. I sign on at dslreports, the logo is broadbandreports, it doesn't matter to me which, as long as I've been here anyway, always been known by either/both so I would think that would be up to Justin to decide. Agree, it WOULD be more of a presence for BOINC stats to have somewhat consolidation of names also.
Dslreports Team Helix, Dslreports Team Starfire, Broadbandreports Team Helix, Broadbandreports Team Discovery etc. This is the simplest method because the official name of the team and forum won't be changed and the stats can be consolidated for BOINC yet kept separate for the teams.
The confusing part however would be when a team is running two projects. So would FAH BOINC (which is beta), ALSO be called Dslreports Team Helix when out of beta, or maybe Dslreports/Broadbandreports Team Helix R@H, Dslreports/Broadbandreports F@H etc? Quite a mouth full!
used for examples only: Maybe DSLR Team Helix Rosetta, DSLR Team Helix Folding etc. for BOINC projects so all teams here can keep everything the same?
As a member of Team Helix, I would like Team Helix's name to be on the BOINC projects that we run, am thinking most other members of clubs would also. May not be seeing all the in's and out's of the issue however, but a general name decision for BOINC sounds like may need to be decided yeah or nay while all is still young.
(Since this is also related to TH discussion, am posting there also)
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said by m00kie :Why not just name all those teams Broadbandreports.com or DSLReports.com (if management prefers). It will give us a much stronger presence in the DC world of BOINC. I guess that would depend on whether we're one community, or a bunch of separate teams. I'd like to see us as one community, but apparently others want to keep things as separate teams  .
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m00kie
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It is currently impossible to tie all the BOINC teams together for the purposes of stats without those BOINC teams having the identical name. That is the problem we're facing.
Any variation in the team names at the individual projects will make it impossible for the stats to reflect properly. In a perfect world each project team could have it's own name but allow a mechanism for tieing those names together under the same umbrella. But, alas, that's not possible. That's why I suggested we use the same name and differentiate ourselves in the team description field.
For example:
for Seti@Home
Team name: BroadbandReports.com
Team Description: Team Starfire - Broadband users crunching to find ET!
Team Name BroadbandReports.com
Team Description: Team Helix - Searching for cures, one protein at a time!
Also, each team would still point to the appropriate forum
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said by Xaak :I guess that would depend on whether we're one community, or a bunch of separate teams. I'd like to see us as one community, but apparently others want to keep things as separate teams . Apparently not. "others" have no way to change DSLReports Team Helix, due to circumstances beyond our control. It isn't correct to profess that anyone currently here and active is somehow holding up a change, when in fact there is nothing we can do.
Comments that suggest divisiveness when it does not exist aren't quite "cricket".
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| I guess I have two questions then. Are you sure that you can't change the Boinc team name when folding comes out of beta? And is there no way to contact your original team creator and ask him to make the name change, even if he won't turn the team over?
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I can see where those who are doing multiple BOINC projects would like to "consolidate" with a main Team name and then to leave a Description with each individual Team (forum) name. I too am one here who also has crunched over 100K in cobblestones for Team Starfire. I know this is what will need to be done should you want your stats listing under a common Team name for the BOINC projects.
However, I think that Team Helix should be given plenty of time to decide on this, as they have stated they are awaiting possible name change (or merge) with F@H in the BOINC area, not to mention not having control of their current Team name (something I was unaware until this thread).
And though we've all gone through some "interesting" times here lately, I for one am happy to just be able to crunch for R@H and have a place (Team Helix) to do that here.
At the risk of alienating myself from yet one more Team,( and I'm running out of them rapidly ) let's just take a little time and see where Team Helix & F@H is going, especially in the BOINC area. |
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| Good points, but keep in mind that for R@H at least, the name can be changed at any time. It's entirely possible for us to use the same name now, and when FAH comes out with the boinc client, they can take another look at the R@H name at that point.
Right now there's no tie-in between FAH and R@H, so why not address the requests of the BOINC users now, for the time being, and then when the facts are known about FAH BOINC, deal with when/if it becomes an issue. Helix has control of the R@H founder account so it shouldn't be an issue when the time comes to rethink the names.
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