  ib50MbSoon Formerly TwoKDialup Premium join:2002-06-07 Coloma, MI
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"The changes also state AT&T will track viewing habits of Homezone and U-Verse users," Is this really necessary to catch terrorists?  -- Meet Bill and Karolyn at www.theslowskys.com |
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31
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| No it is really necessary to cover their assets and continue to do business without the government breathing down their necks.
As for catching terrorists you will have to ask the feds. -- Next time leave a name & we can discuss your issues. |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| reply to ib50MbSoon said by ib50MbSoon :"The changes also state AT&T will track viewing habits of Homezone and U-Verse users," Is this really necessary to catch terrorists? ABSOLUTELY NOT! You hit the nail on the head.
Here's the biggest problem I have with it... When a major corporation writes into their privacy policy that they are going to make it easier to deliver your private habbits to the Feds, it just goes to show you there is a very thin line, or lack there of, between corporations and the government..
I wonder if this was one of AT&T's back door deals where they will give the government all the access they need in trade for video franchise. Talk about sell outs... |
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31
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| Forget the terrorism angle for now. It is about money, avoiding lawsuits, and having the Feds on your side.
You will see more of this happening in the coming months IMO. -- Next time leave a name & we can discuss your issues. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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| said by Grail Knight :Forget the terrorism angle for now. It is about money, avoiding lawsuits, and having the Feds on your side. You will see more of this happening in the coming months IMO. You are right. Many, if not all, ISPs will adopt similar policies in the near future. It protects them from successful lawsuits when complying with government orders. If you don't like it, they are saying sue the government and not us.
And as voters, if you don't like this, get your congresscritter to change the law. -- -- Join Red Room Forum BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com My Web Page |
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 grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03 New York, NY | The truth hurts... |
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  tsu9
join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL
| reply to TKJunkMail And as voters, if you don't like this, get your congresscritter to change the law.
And, as Congresscritters, they will promptly totally ignore the Will of the People.
'might be cynical, but that's pretty much how things go these days, regardless of who is in office. |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA
| Not so much ignore the will of the people as redirect the attention of the people.
"Yes, this NSA spying thing is really bad an.... hey, look over there! Married gays burning the flag!!!!!"
The specific distraction will change based on the politician and his party, but the basic tactic remains the same. -- -Jason Levine My Gallery | Jason's Toolbox | PCQandA.com | URateit.com |
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 grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03 New York, NY | Since, when has gay marriage been a tool of distraction. Really...
It has been terrorism for the last 5 years... |
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  tsu9
join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | reply to Jason Levine Ignore? Distract? Wave their butts in the air?
Same outcome :P |
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 markofmayhem
join:2004-04-08 Pittsburgh, PA
| reply to tsu9 I can't agree more! No matter who I put in office, who I vote for, the "fight on terrorism" is taking front stage in the excuse to provide me with less freedoms than my father, who had less freedoms than his father, so on and so forth. While I'm not wearing tinfoil, nor do I believe it has gotten to the point that violations of freedom are occuring, I do NOT like the direction my country is heading. Every year more freedoms are exchanged for more protection. I don't like it. Yes, I would rather be blown up on a bus than to have my phone conversation listed to. |
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join:2003-03-18 Beverly Hills, CA
| reply to ib50MbSoon said by ib50MbSoon :"The changes also state AT&T will track viewing habits of Homezone and U-Verse users," Is this really necessary to catch terrorists? Jesus Christ! This is insane... and unnecessary.
Not to catch terrorist but to convict innocent people who have done nothing wrong. Ever heard of what you say can be used against you in the court of law? Well its the same thing except its one step further... It's to shut everyone up because we the people now gotta watch what we say whether we are joking or not. 
Guess who is being terrorized now due to manufactured threats artificially created to scare the heck out of everyone. |
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  Jigsaw Stardust We Are Premium join:2000-10-21 Cleveland, OH
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| reply to markofmayhem said by markofmayhem :I can't agree more! No matter who I put in office, who I vote for, the "fight on terrorism" is taking front stage in the excuse to provide me with less freedoms than my father, who had less freedoms than his father, so on and so forth. While I'm not wearing tinfoil, nor do I believe it has gotten to the point that violations of freedom are occuring, I do NOT like the direction my country is heading. Every year more freedoms are exchanged for more protection. I don't like it. Yes, I would rather be blown up on a bus than to have my phone conversation listed to. Fist off They(they won't)/We/ anyone needs to get Lobbying out of the Government.IMHO the seeds of fascism have been planted(and is slowly growing) and we need to pull that out from the root.This is America Land Of the Free and home of the Brave Not America Land of the Greed and Home of the Slave... -- »www.auralmoon.com/html/ Stimulating ears for 6 years |
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  avantare Go Tribe
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| reply to Grail Knight said by Grail Knight :Forget the terrorism angle for now. It is about money, avoiding lawsuits, and having the Feds on your side. You will see more of this happening in the coming months IMO. You hit the nail on the head Grail Knight .
Chuck -- Warner Music Group CEO Edgar Bronfman, Jr. "We're not greedy. We just want more money." |
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  tsu9
join:2001-08-17 Wheeling, IL | reply to Jigsaw The likelihood of Congress disposing of things like lobbying is effectively nil. They aren't going to deny themselves free trips, meals, "gifts" and whatnot. |
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  Jigsaw Stardust We Are Premium join:2000-10-21 Cleveland, OH
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| said by tsu9 :The likelihood of Congress disposing of things like lobbying is effectively nil. They aren't going to deny themselves free trips, meals, "gifts" and whatnot. Then IMHO they need to go!!!! -- »www.auralmoon.com/html/ Stimulating ears for 6 years |
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| reply to Grail Knight said by Grail Knight :You will see more of this happening in the coming months IMO. As times goes on, the more and more it seems like we're living in China. -- Cheers, Stephanie - www.GlitterFaerie.com |
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 GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11 Duluth, GA
| reply to avantare Unfortunately, when was the last time a telco made the right rational and or logic decision? In trying to avoid loss of money for violating privacy rights of their paying customers, they simply abuse their customers more.
I would have cheered AT&T had they done the right thing and stood up to the Bushy administration by filing a suit against them. They probably could have gotten the rest of the telcos, and probably all of the ISPs to back them up.
Instead, the ankle-grabbers at AT&T did the wrong thing. |
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  Jigsaw Stardust We Are Premium join:2000-10-21 Cleveland, OH
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| said by GhostDoggy :Instead, the ankle-grabbers at AT&T did the wrong thing. Then they should be made to PAY for that mistake!!!! -- »www.auralmoon.com/html/ Stimulating ears for 6 years |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| reply to grandpinaple said by grandpinaple :Since, when has gay marriage been a tool of distraction. Really... It has been terrorism for the last 5 years... EXCUSE ME?!
Where have you been? It was gay marriage which gave Bush just enough to win the 2004 election. The midterms are up and now gay marriage is back in the spotlight. You have to be living in a cave with Osama to not know that gay marriage is just one of the distractions out there.
1) Abortion 2) Attack on Religion 3) Gay Marriage 4) Flag Burning 5) War on Terror
There's just a few pages out of the Karl Rove play book,... only the American people are getting it finally. |
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