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not a cheap upgrade

not all cablemodem node infrastructures have been upgraded with fiber deep enough for this new switching. probably only cablevision would be a buyer of such technology, as others can't justify the cost given their current marketshare vs. benefits.

BTW, it would be a "monopoly provider" as well, have you seen an "off the shelf" 100/100 cablemodem lately?

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Re: not a cheap upgrade

said by fewbuyersforthis :

not all cablemodem node infrastructures have been upgraded with fiber deep enough for this new switching. probably only cablevision would be a buyer of such technology, as others can't justify the cost given their current marketshare vs. benefits.
That is true. Comcast mostly has done fiber to the neighborhood implementations. To extend fiber to the pedestals or the poles outside of houses would mean a major upgrade that would take billions of dollars and many years.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by fewbuyersforthis :

not all cablemodem node infrastructures have been upgraded with fiber deep enough for this new switching. probably only cablevision would be a buyer of such technology, as others can't justify the cost given their current marketshare vs. benefits.
That is true. Comcast mostly has done fiber to the neighborhood implementations. To extend fiber to the pedestals or the poles outside of houses would mean a major upgrade that would take billions of dollars and many years.
No, not true. Considering Verizon is deploying it in only a matter of a few months for an entire city, the fiber is already there on the cable tv side, all the way to the neighborhood. This can easily be extended.
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Re: not a cheap upgrade

On the contrary, MOST providers are not FTTC (curbside) or for that matter "DEEP FIBER" under 5 miles to 100% of the homes passed. You need to check with the deployment maps of major service providers outside of cablevision land!

There are specific map locations of where the FTTX switches are deployed.. as they need to know EXACTLY where their equipment is in the field or you might have a bunch of mexicans-ahem- illegals walk off with your equipment and sell it for scrap (ahem, cough, cough, Miami)... Shameless electric fence shock for the mexicans out there, appologies in advance..



Look there are TWO sides of the coin here... upgrade for 95% of the cost now....... or make it completely fiber for the extra 5% and be able to sleep at night, knowing that you will just need to change nodes, end-user ont's and headend modulation equipment, or you can buy the complete upgrade package from narad later, seeing as it will be proprietary (one provider) that's a single edged sword cablevision is swollowing, and what happens if they get greedy down the road? Verizon is 3 off-the-shelf rfp's supporting ont, fiber lines, and head-end equipment. So unless they collude(illegal), that won't happen.
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That all depends. Most have deployed FTTN. So it really depends how far off that node connection is. Where I live it isn't very far at all. Extending it to each house will involve costs, but not as much (nearly) as what Verizon is enduring with FiOS.

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said by pabster See Profile :

That all depends. Most have deployed FTTN. So it really depends how far off that node connection is. Where I live it isn't very far at all. Extending it to each house will involve costs, but not as much (nearly) as what Verizon is enduring with FiOS.
Exactly. Cable has the advantage of being able to do lots of things incrementally, whereas something like FiOS is a complete rebuild - that's obviously going to cost more.
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