 johnh123
join:2002-11-19 Chicago, IL
| reply to ghordy Re: [News] PowerBoost
said by ghordy :Where is the boost? I have no boost. They said I would be boosted here in Chicago. The email said power cycle the modem and experience the boost. There is no boost. Boost this! I'm in the burbs...just signed up yesterday...i'm boosting big time. |
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  joekuz
join:2003-03-13 Calistoga, CA
| Been away for few days, came home, pwrcycl'd modem, still no boost here 
Maybe if I was on gold tier I would get priority?
Better yet I need to get what Dadkins has the "bribe"tier,
he's been pwrboostin' for months and only 50 miles south of me  -- AMD 3700+ (san diego)@2739 Asus A8N-sli deluxe 1GB Corsair PC3200 Chaintech 6600GT @540/1.2 WD Raptor 36GB Antec Trupower 430W etc..... |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
2 edits | What? Who? Me? 
Oh yeah, speed tests are accurate!!! 
EDIT: For those who don't want to click the image...
Last Result: Download Speed: 40783 kbps (5097.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 677 kbps (84.6 KB/sec transfer rate) |
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  Johkal Cool Cat Premium,MVM join:2002-11-13 Happy Valley clubs: | Wow! The Boost gods definitely love you! |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | Just further proof that speed tests are not to be trusted!
No freakin way my connection is THAT good! Sure looks cool! 
EDIT: Aw shit! LMAO! See pic!  Last Result: Download Speed: 46939 kbps (5867.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 678 kbps (84.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
WHEEEEE!!!!!!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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  tshirt Premium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA | better order some more hard drives, daddy-o. |
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 dscline
join:2001-09-01 Atlanta, GA
| reply to dadkins said by dadkins :Oh yeah, speed tests are accurate!!!  Have you monitored your datarate during the test? It's possible that it IS accurate for the time sample being tested. |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Test is borked! Highest I have seen it go with NetPerSec is 19mbps in an instant burst.
Speed tests suck! LOL! Sure looks cool, huh?  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 dscline
join:2001-09-01 Atlanta, GA
| Hmmm, that's odd. My local (atl) speakeasy tests have always agreed with netpersec. And we don't seem to have any kind of bursting, boosting, bumping, or grinding, (except for a VERY tiny initial burst, no where near yours) so it almost always comes in just over 8mbps. |
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  cracker 52
@comcast.net
| Right on dscline. That's what I've been trying to convey as to why my Speakeasy test results have been reasonably accurate and consistent. People in markets with prolonged or significant bursts (not Powerboost) think it's that way in all markets. But we certainly don't have that here in Atlanta. What occasional bursting that may occur will only peak at 10 megs for a second at best. When we finally do get Powerboost, then our test results will probably be skewed. |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
3 edits | And what *I* try to convey is that because one market is getting semi-accurate speed tests, that it is not the same everywhere.
For *MOST* of the Comcast markets, speed tests are inaccurate.
Have a look: »/archive?zip=&···t=Search
I see alot of scatered ZIP codes there... and alot of rather high results.
I'll say it again. Speed tests are not to be trusted - any of them!
When you run a test, and it shows below normal speeds, does that mean your connection is hosed? Likely the test hiccupped - not to be trusted. 
Downloading a large file from a known fast server is a more accurate test of your line's capabilities. Where ever you are. Whatever ISP you have. Whatever market you are in.
Just as when people state that Testmy.net is an accurate test...
:::.. Download Stats ..::: Download Connection is:: 6195 Kbps about 6.2 Mbps (tested with 5983 kB) Download Speed is:: 756 kB/s Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2006/07/01 - 12:18pm Bottom Line:: 108X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 1.35 sec Tested from a 5983 kB file and took 7.912 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: Looks Great : 19.73 % faster than the average for host (comcast.net) D-Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-OWUYJ697I User Agent:: Opera/9.00 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) [!]
I don't think so! Sorry! LOL!
-- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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  Bens Delicious Hog
@comcast.net
from: dadkins 
| Correctamundo dadkins. Only real way to judge speed is by observing a larege download. Even then it is dependant on the server providing the data and the route the data takes. Lots of folks don't seem to want to accept this.
The quick and easy speed tests are really just fluff. |
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  cracker 52
@comcast.net
| reply to dadkins Where did you get that any of us made any generalization that most of Comcast markets don't have bursting or don't have skewed test results? I only referred to Atlanta has not having much bursts and usually not having skewed test results. Just enter 303 in the archive. Unlike you, I'm not the one making generalizations.
I agree that the true test is from a FTP download. I just hate these silly sweeping generalizations, though the worst ones are from those who are having connection/speed problems.
Also, from the link you gave, the skewed results are not in any of the southeastern states, Texas, southern California or the northwestern states. Those aren't exactly small markets.
Download Speed: 8483 kbps (1060.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 721 kbps (90.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
I get those readings time after time. |
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  danny9 Go Ahead, Make My Day Premium join:2002-07-14 Clinton Township, MI clubs: 
·VoicePulse
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins I agree. Most speed tests I have used show no consistancy. The two I have found too be the most consistant are: »speedtest.umflint.edu/ and »speedtest.mi.charter.com/ Has anyone used these before and have any opinions on them? -- To Think or not to Think: That is the real question. VoicePulse 07/29/04 |
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  Johkal Cool Cat Premium,MVM join:2002-11-13 Happy Valley clubs: 1 edit | It's all subjective, but I have always liked the Web100 sites. |
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 dscline
join:2001-09-01 Atlanta, GA
| reply to dadkins said by dadkins :And what *I* try to convey is that because one market is getting semi-accurate speed tests, that it is not the same everywhere. ... When you run a test, and it shows below normal speeds, does that mean your connection is hosed? Likely the test hiccupped - not to be trusted.  Well that's completely different issue than netpersec showing significantly different results than the speed test DURING the speed test.
A speedtest is NOT a complex thing. It doesn't take a whole lot to automate the process of clearing the cache or use random data or whatever, then transfer it, and time it. I don't understand what about that process has to be inherently inaccurate. It should be accurate . Obviously, if you've got significant bursting/boosting in your area, it won't accurately represent the average speed of downloads of different sizes, just like a large ftp transfer won't accurately represent the transfer speed of a small file. It's not so much an accuracy issue, it's a sample size issue that manifests itself in a variable speed environment, which is what those of you in bursted/boosted essentially are (more so than the net already is).
But the puzzlement to me is why a speedtest would give significantly different results than the average while monitoring the transfer with netpersec, while some of us using the same test sites are getting very accurate results. |
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 doomed999
join:2004-02-25 Romeoville, IL
1 edit |  Screen Of Traffic threw Firewall... |
here is an example....PowerBoost "Not Implemented" per CC.
2006-07-02 09:58:50 Speed test @ speed.nap.wideopenwest.com 23806/358 kbps
2006-07-02 09:56:39 Speed test @ chicago.speedtest.frontiernet.net 15031/359 kbps
Explain how the speedtest is way up as the MAX though the firewall was 284k??
Just proof that as some markets the tests may be accurate, it sure isn't by me... |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to dscline Ok, say you have a 1 second pause(it happens) while doing a speed test. This will give the tester a low result.
Because the tester sees this low result, should they immediately call Comcast and complain?
Bursting. When I see 14 - 46mbps results... should I think I have a magical line and then complain when an actual download shows the 8.5mbps I normally get?
Since Comcast has had bursting for nearly a year, I suspect that your market may have a problem. Whether it is oversold, equipment that is overloaded/old, whatever... you get reasonably close results.
This does not mean that the Speakeasy test(or any other speed test) is to be held as accurate.
Yeah, NetPerSec shows an instantanious burst here of about 19mbps then drops... yet the Speakeasy(S.F.) test keeps on climbing to unreal results!
Santa Cruz NDT also shows me above 9.2mbps and that is running for 10 seconds. I'm here in California. We get any and all upgrades/enhancements last! I have been getting 12-14mbps for about a year on various different tests. Some others, I see ~4mbps. Which one(s) should I go by?
I'll tell you which one(s) I should trust - none of them!
Seeing as most every other market is seeing odd results from speed tests... they all suck!
Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, the Atlanta Speakeasy test is congested? Perhaps the Atlanta Comcast market is off a little? People in nearly all other markets are seeing insane burst speeds...
Try this, go to the Speakeasy test and choose San Francisco, or any other Speakeasy server. What are your results? -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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  CajunTek Insane Cajun Premium,MVM join:2003-08-08 Arlington, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Oh yeah they are accurate  |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
|  About right... |
Naw! LOL!
Here, a real speed test!  |
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