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Goober
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Any Fines?

I wonder if they'll punish people after a number of such incidents.


snolsen

join:2004-01-10
Hanford, CA
So do they have DF equipment to tell where the signal is coming from?


koolman2
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said by Goober See Profile :

I wonder if they'll punish people after a number of such incidents.
They can't, as it is currently completely legal to have an open and unsecured wireless network.
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Fountainhead
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If someone wants to sit outside my house and suck off my router, so be it..

My computer is off... Someone might as well use the thing.
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digital k
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said by Fountainhead See Profile :

If someone wants to sit outside my house and suck off my router, so be it..

My computer is off... Someone might as well use the thing.
Well that is charitable, til the law comes knockin because some sicko sat there and downloaded child porn with your connection, or someone used it to pirate movies, or to do who knows what.


maartena
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said by Fountainhead See Profile :

If someone wants to sit outside my house and suck off my router, so be it..

My computer is off... Someone might as well use the thing.
Where do you live? I have a million e-mails to spam and I had my eyes set on hacking a website or two. And do you mind if I leave my laptop running in the car over the weekend, I have a nice phishing site setup to grab eBay password.

You won't mind if it's your IP address they trace all that back to, won't ya? Sure you won't! Just tell me your city, street and cross street, I don't need your exact address, i'll find the wireless router myself.

Thanks in advance!
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maartena
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said by digital k See Profile :

said by Fountainhead See Profile :

If someone wants to sit outside my house and suck off my router, so be it..

My computer is off... Someone might as well use the thing.
Well that is charitable, til the law comes knockin because some sicko sat there and downloaded child porn with your connection, or someone used it to pirate movies, or to do who knows what.
Oh and yes... I forgot child porn. I may as well upload my collection to usenet using your connection. I'm sure you won't mind the authoroties taking possession of your laptop/computer a few weeks later.
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Goober
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said by koolman2 See Profile :

said by Goober See Profile :

I wonder if they'll punish people after a number of such incidents.
They can't, as it is currently completely legal to have an open and unsecured wireless network.
Right. THe operative word being "currently" though.


Fatal Vector

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You're welcome! And, after they raid me and take my stuff, only to find nothing incriminating, I'll be sure to make a big stink about it to the media and sue their asses off.

I'll let them buy me my wardriver RV. Your tax money at work.


pleekmo
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said by Goober See Profile :

said by koolman2 See Profile :

said by Goober See Profile :

I wonder if they'll punish people after a number of such incidents.
They can't, as it is currently completely legal to have an open and unsecured wireless network.
Right. THe operative word being "currently" though.
The other operative words are that local jurisdictions may pass laws forbidding any action not procribed by the Constitution of the United States of America or expressly permitted by the Constitution and its Amendments. On the other hand, it appears probable that a local jurisdiction may not have the authority to regulate what may or may not be transmitted by radio (a wireless router is, after all, a transmitter) as such things are generally only regulated by the Federal Communications Commission. On the gripping hand, the FCC could always regulate licensing of such transceivers, which would seem to make (other) regulation of wireless routers even easier. On the fourth hand, even so, enforcement would likely only be the jurisdiction of the FCC.
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footballdude
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On the gripping hand
I know I recognize that but I can't place it. Where's that from?


Goober
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So you're saying that federalism may save the day for unsecured hotspots?

Possibly. But, I have a feeling that local laws could be constructed to somewhat skirt around federal FCC laws. Of course, if it becomes a huge issue that starts bothering the government for some reason, they could always throw in a commerce clause argument and take it all back. That being said, I'm not sure other than for making sure the FCC is the only entity regulating the airwaves, what interest the government would have.
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