dave
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join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
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| reply to Brigrat
Re: Let's put this one to bed...
said by Brigrat  : Not in so many words, but he certainly took credit for its existence... Yes, and deservedly too.
At least, Cerf and Kahn (who did invent the Internet  ) think so.
Here.
As usual when dealing with potential myths, it's wise to check with Snopes. |
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Jafo232
You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.
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join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY | reply to Nerdtalker
Re: are you kidding?
Gives a whole new meaning to boob tube.. |
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2
| reply to rradina
i agree completely with you.
While studying this net neutrality debate it raises the question, for me anyway, Could the pathetic upgrade schedule of the north american broadband have contributed to the dot com bust? I think you might be able to prove the case that their resistance to lay fiber all accross the USA may have contributed significantly to the dot com bust as consumers were completely shut out of the broadband world and therfore all but the strongest business plans were completely useless.
Do we need to be put further behind? These people act like laying fiber to the curb is a bad for them (when in reality it becomes an asset to the company). Remember in 1985 they predicted that the USA would be almost all fiber to the house by 2000. The current regualtory enviroment of oligopoly control continues to drag their feet and need to have less control not more. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| I'm not sure laying fiber across the country is the problem. At least several years ago there were complaints that too much fiber had been installed and much of it was dark. I don't know if that's still true.
It is true, however, that an improved infrastructure to the curb (each home) has been artificially retarded by oligopolies unwilling to settle for a fair return on their investment. Rather than a fair return for their investment and having to deal with potential competitors leasing their investment (keeping prices low), they want to keep if for themselves and maximize their returns. And in a competitive environment, they have an obligation to do so for their shareholders. But fair competition does not exist. If it did, Google, Microsoft and other major content providers would not be voicing opinions. They would simply move their business to the next provider -- the way capitalism is designed to work; consumers having choices and thereby keeping vendors and providers efficient and fair.
Regarding running out of bandwidth -- the cable companies seemingly prove how ridiculous this notion is. Instead of lowering prices on existing bandwidth tiers, they keep raising the bandwidth on existing tiers. The only way this model works is if the bandwidth cost of the service is not linear (that is, as bandwidth increases, costs increase at a rate that is far less than proportional) or bandwidth represents such a small cost of the overall service that they can afford to double or even triple it speeds for the same price. Rather than running out of bandwidth, they continue to innovate by replacing equipment and modems so that they can offer increased upload and download speeds.
Although we've heard about the ILECs having improved DSL equipment to offer increased speeds over the same infrastructure, they've done next to nothing regarding these technologies. Granted, running fiber is much better but they've only recently begun doing this. And they seem to fight every competitor who wants to socialize the infrastructure and offer a community option.
I just don't trust the ILECs. They are old money and they are used to having guaranteed business, guaranteed profits and measured innovation. |
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI
| reply to qworster
Re: Let's put this one to bed...
Your right, let's put this to bed...
Gore and the Internet
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet" Gore said when asked to cite accomplishments that separate him from another Democratic presidential hopeful, former Sen. Bill Bradley of New Jersey, during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN on March 9, 1999.
Gore supported technological advances related to the advancement of the Internet, but to say that HE took the initiative in creating the Internet is a bit much.
(Sources: Transcript »www.wired.com/news/news/politics···390.html )
(Note: Lots of people seem to enjoy e-mailing me, professing that my information about Gore saying he "invented" the Internet is wrong, that he did support things which helped get the Internet moving, etc. First, I know he never said he "invented" the Internet. Please notice the quote above. Second, saying that he took the initiative in CREATING the Internet is still a funny statement since the Internet was already created and being used (ex: file copying via the UUCP protocol and e-mail) by the time he was elected to Congress. One can't take the "initiative" to "create" something which has already been created.) |
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