BellBoy
Obama racist? Then Bush is Hitler.
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"The two lawsuits appear to be similar in the claims and both are without merit," said Microsoft spokesman Jim Desler . "They distort our antipiracy program…and the harm piracy brings to Microsoft and to customers."
...and the harm of M$ poking their noses around people's computers that are already paranoid about damage done to their personal information because of M$'s desire to constantly release lousy operating systems.
Sue their asses and keep them honest...expose the code that's doing the snooping. M$ already has the market share for global domination...how much more greedy can they get?
What are they afraid of...Apple? They should be... |
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BIGMIKE
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| These people have been cracking WGA since it came out, first with Javascript, then later with cracked DLL's
I have no problem updating windows. 
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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said by BellBoy  :What are they afraid of...Apple? They should be... They can't be afraid of a company that tells people to buy a mac because it runs windows. Apple no longer is competing with Microsoft, they are helping. If someone buys a mac and installs windows on it, microsoft wins. Especially if they pay retail for it.
If anything it appears that Apple is just phasing out the MacOS by getting people on a computer that runs windows. |
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ilikefoam
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I wonder if there were no pirates of softwall at all if the price of MS software would be less expensive? |
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wh5916
join:2006-02-09
Newport News, VA
| said by ilikefoam :
I wonder if there were no pirates of softwall at all if the price of MS software would be less expensive?
I'm sure the folks who sold $20 software titles for the Atari 8-bit computers thought the same thing at one time.
There are people out there who'll happily crack the protection scheme to unlock a $10 piece of shareware. |
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BellBoy
Obama racist? Then Bush is Hitler.
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| reply to insomniac84
said by insomniac84 :said by BellBoy :What are they afraid of...Apple? They should be... They can't be afraid of a company that tells people to buy a mac because it runs windows. Apple no longer is competing with Microsoft, they are helping. If someone buys a mac and installs windows on it, microsoft wins. Especially if they pay retail for it. If anything it appears that Apple is just phasing out the MacOS by getting people on a computer that runs windows. I'm not sure where your logic is going with that because M$ has already won. The market share numbers have been in their favor for years now. But...the numbers are starting to turn...
What Apple is doing, rather smartly I'd say, is to give people another alternative. A much more efficient, more attractive, yet less buggy and prone to attack alternative. Apple is a hardware company more than they are a software company. It's to their benefit to get people to take a look at a better OS if that will make them hardware customers. IMO, the OS money is gravy to them when they can get a customer in a store to buy a computer and perhaps an iPod, and perhaps XXXX (whatever).
I highly doubt that the Mac OS will be phased out anytime soon in favor of Windows...hey, but it's Apple and we didn't see the Intel transition coming either.
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tiger72
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said by ilikefoam :
I wonder if there were no pirates of softwall at all if the price of MS software would be less expensive?
of course not.
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garywk
join:2001-03-06
Clarkston, WA
| reply to BIGMIKE
said by BIGMIKE :These people have been cracking WGA since it came out, first with Javascript, then later with cracked DLL's I have no problem updating windows. Ummm.... Just who are "these people" and do you have personal knowledge they have been cracking WGA? If so why are they suing? Wouldn't that just be really stupid? Call attention to yourself by entering into a lawsuit with MS in which MS's lawyers will most like serve a subpeona requiring they show proof of whether or not the organizations and people involved in the lawsuits have legitimate copies of MS's OS?
Great thinking there buddy.... That was some keen analysis.
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join:2000-10-28
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Wow, I had no idea this sh*t was going down w/MS (seldom look at those forums). I'm so glad I switched to Linux a few years ago, there were a lot of bugs in the begining, and a huge learning curve but I certainly never had to put up with this kind of crap. Last time I ever ran into anything that invasive was AOL about 10 years ago. |
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ifarrell
join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC
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said by insomniac84 :said by BellBoy :What are they afraid of...Apple? They should be... They can't be afraid of a company that tells people to buy a mac because it runs windows. Apple no longer is competing with Microsoft, they are helping. If someone buys a mac and installs windows on it, microsoft wins. Especially if they pay retail for it. If anything it appears that Apple is just phasing out the MacOS by getting people on a computer that runs windows. I actually know of several dozen people the got Macs in the last few months with the notion of running Windows either using Boot Camp or under Parallels.
All but two didn't bother because they found out that they could do everything they wanted in MacOSX. The two that installed Windows (both used Parallels) was to run one program that wasn't available for the Mac that they needed.
Microsoft is slowly loosing to people like these and they are convincing others.
Apple created Boot Camp to entice Windows Users on the fence about getting a Mac.
Apple will never get rid of their OS and if you actually used one you'd know why. |
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tcharp
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said by wh5916 :There are people out there who'll happily crack the protection scheme to unlock a $10 piece of shareware. Indeed, there are people out there who crack free software for reasons only they could tell you.
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AnonProxy
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Mac won't get rid of it's OS because it's the highest margin product they make. Something has got to make up for the money they lose on every iPod. |
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cableties
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| Incorrect. Apple's hardware sales is their greatest margin for profit.
Recall that iLife is not free. Prior, iPhoto, itunes, iMovie HD were free. Unless you purchase a new mac, you have to buy iLife for upgrade.
When Apple serializes MAC OS X, then will you understand, nothing is free.
Apple's Widgets phone home. Just use Lil' snitch and block.
I don't mind WGA, but I'd like to know what ports to close that it and other "sneakies" are using. |
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