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« Coffee Shop Managers != IT Monkeys  

rachelsfx

join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL

Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

McDonalds? What person chomps down a Big Mac and surfs the web?

Gyms - Yes, they do. What can you possibly need Wi-Fi in a Gym for? Finger exercises?

Starbucks - At $6 for a cup of Joe that Juan Valdez didn't pick, I have to pay for Wi-Fi too?

Of course, the White House doesn't have Wi-Fi mainly 'cause Bush doesn't get it. His secretary even programs his iPod.

calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

Uhhh, did you read a different article than I did?

calvoiper
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whoamIoramI

join:2004-05-17
Jersey City, NJ

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

Also, if you live in place like NYC and have a starbucks below you, you have free internet. My friend that graduated recently never paid a dime for internet access this way.

Do i agree with what he did? nope. Stealing is stealing

milnoc

join:2001-03-05
H3B

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

Did your friend go stir-crazy from the constant smell of coffee coming from the Starbucks?
Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
That is certainly not stealing. It would be trespassing, if they told him not to use it. If they didn't tell him to stay off their network, and freely broadcast it for others to use, then he did nothing wrong.
froggy58

join:2002-05-07
Cape Canaveral, FL

"McDonalds? What person chomps down a Big Mac and surfs the web?"

When I was in the USAF (late 80's) I was on a team of folks that went to the "Dew Line" with Winnipeg being our 2 day layover until our northbound connecting charter.

We went to a McDonalds and after we had our lunch actually (ate it), no others in the place except staff & us, the manager came up and said you're done, please leave. This was probably one of the best behaved team of folks I've seen, yet if we we not eating we were to be gone. I asked why, he said we were taking up seats...

I just finished my burger when they told us.

K

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Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

I remember a similar incident from when I was a little kid, about 8 or 9. My family and I went to New Orleans, and I wanted an ice cream cone. So, we went into an ice cream parlor to get one, whereupon the manager told my parents, brother, and sister-in-law that if they didn't buy something, they'd have to wait outside until I finished. Needless to say, we all walked out, and several other people who overheard the conversation did the same. I don't think the place was there when we visited again the next year.

It's one thing to ask people politely to make room for other patrons when the place is busy, but it's quite another to be a jerk. The jerks probably think they're helping business by moving people along and freeing up space, but they're really hurting business because word gets around.

As for the subject at hand, I don't think it'd be unreasonable for a coffee shop to offer a limited amount of access per purchase. 30 minutes for a cup of coffee would be a fair deal. Just have an access code that expires and disconnects the user 30 minutes after the purchase.

Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
Let me guess, the manager was Indian? Canada is becoming a 2nd India.

Dan
Hamilton Tigers?
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join:2002-12-17
Eh?

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

Way to stereotype. Prick.

Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

said by Dan See Profile :

Way to stereotype. Prick.
That is not a stereotype post. If you go up to Canada, especially the Toronto area, there are more Indian resident Aliens/Canadian Citizens then there are True Canadians.
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UnrealArcher

join:2005-01-21
Scarborough, ON

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

The hell you talking about? I live in the city and I hardly see it becoming a second India.

I echo the sentiments above: way to be a stereotypical prick.

calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

I also echo the sentiments above, but it's also important to note that some immigrant shop owners come from cultures where personal interaction is very different. In some areas, concepts of personal space, rudeness, and acceptable behavior (including both how long to stay and how to ask someone to leave) vary widely from United States norms (to say nothing of variances within the US.)

While we may consider some things quite rude, they may be "normal" in the person's home country. Whether or not to discuss this aspect with the shopkeeper is a personal call.

calvoiper
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mesmerMAN

join:2006-01-18
Miami, FL

ster·e·o·type Audio pronunciation of "stereotype" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (str--tp, stîr-)
n.

1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.
3. Printing. A metal printing plate cast from a matrix molded from a raised printing surface, such as type

Lord Wanker

join:2001-10-23
Montreal, QC

said by Greg_Z See ProfileIf you go up to Canada, especially the Toronto area, there are more Indian resident Aliens/Canadian Citizens then there are True Canadians.
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One could argue that True Canadians are Indians.
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calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

Re: Coffee Shops with Wi-Fi

said by Lord Wanker See Profile :

One could argue that True Canadians are Indians.
Only if you perpetuate Columbus's mistake in confusing Native Americans and Asian Indians....

calvoiper
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Cop
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join:2001-09-05
Auburn, AL
·Charter Pipeline

said by Greg_Z See Profile :

Let me guess, the manager was Indian? Canada is becoming a 2nd India.
lol
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rudnicke
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join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL
And it goes political...
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