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FiL
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join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD

reply to fiberguy
Re: not on the wholesale level, really?

"As to the internet,... the internet, in my opinion, needs to slow down for a moment. There is a reason we have Cable TV and Satellite companies... they provide television viewing services. There is a reason that phone companies exists.. to provide telephone services. I personally want the internet, today, to remain what it is... a place to transfer data.. and not the kind that I can get on TV or the phone. The internet is trying to become EVERYTHING over night and it just isn't going to happen the way people want it to"

what are you talking about man?!

That made absoulty NO SENSE to me. The internet is trying to do anything, its users that determine whats going on. You seem to like to clump EVERYTHING into one thing, and that "thing" really isnt "anything" at all.

lol. Ur confusing meh. In your view, there should be some internet cop program that would only allow "data" to be shared, and nothing else. Then, what the hell is "data"? How could you ever proclaim "THATS data; this on the other hand isnt." Im not sure you could do that without stomping on someones right to share what they "want". You lobbying for the RIAA/MPAA? Cuase IMO, thats EXACTLY what they wanna hear!

keyboard5684

join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
·Teliax VOIP
·WestPAnet Inc.
·WestPAnet Inc. CA..

It made sense to me, I had trouble reading your post though.

I think the basic point and ideal I really agree with is the internet is not an infinite "thing". Mainly money limits how big and how fast it is. Everybody has to pay some body to connect to the internet somewhere. Even tier 1 providers have enourmous costs.

Now, what I got from the post was this... The internet is not "upgrading". For that to happen everyone in the world would have to upgrade. That means more cost in a world when everyone feels entitled to pay less. We want more out of the same old internet. It is the same as loading up your old 88 chevy with 10 fat people, not going to go well no matter how much you want to move those damn fat people.


FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD

Sorry. I thought English was read in all countrys. (least you got my point, i dont care about the grammer part)

I was confused on how ayone can think they can filter out specific content; even child porn is still running rampant on the web.

"It is the same as loading up your old 88 chevy with 10 fat people, not going to go well no matter how much you want to move those damn fat people."

Actually, that analogy is more so tied to their marketing and research then actual real world transmission of data. How can gigz, terabytes an such worth of data being flowing all over the net, and I still have 14 ping in my FPS shooter? Im not feelings the "slowdown" these guys wanna make you believe will come. Also, its not our fault their still using 88' Chevy's as their point of refernce.


neofate
Caveat Depascor
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join:2003-11-11
Birmingham, AL

reply to FiL
When my cable bill is already a cheap car payment, 130$,.. and goes even higher.. Is when they lose me. Cable companies already charge outrageous prices in the US.

Which is why I can't understand how certain companies can't keep their profit margin up.

Take on average 40-50$ a customer x customer base.. + PPV/On demand etc etc.. It's constant residual income.

The only argument I can see is having to constantly upgrade for technology and needs, but it's going to happen one way or another, and if the Companies want to go further into the outrageous range, another company will come in and undercut, even if they have to build over them.

One thing CC's could do to cut costs in the "long run" is start making it a priority to run Fiber past the Node and into the homes. This would drop Trouble calls due to signal issues, bad Coax etc significantly. As it is now, the current semantics of Coax are on the "edge" of working or having poor quality. It makes more sense to bring in an overkill for the inevitable future. IE: All digital in all markets, more QAM-256B HD, more streams,.. basically Clean Bandwidth. What can achieve that? How about light?

I know it is expensive, but think about how much it costs them to maintain what they have. Then to have to come back and upgrade over X years ,.. It would be much more advantageous to leave room for growth, imo.

Also, the quality of service is questionable in many homes.. once everyone is all digital this quality won't be quite the issue.

But anyway, back to the exact topic -- That amount of money for the transfer of the movie I'm sure has some inflated equipment/overhead costs equated, but is still ridiculous.

One more thing -- an immediate resolution to some of this would be to utilize everyone's bandwidth as in "bit-torrent" hash style sharing for like programming.

That said, Docsis 3.0 is going to blow the roof off what currently resides.
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/\/eofate

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS


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Their profit margin is artificially depressed by large depreciated asset accounts which were allocated during merger mania. As a financial analyst we are actually taught this as the best method (vs. direct write offs, or goodwill application, which I guess it is), but when you overpay by billions and billions of dollars, this is what happens. The problem is when your accounting tricks replace your reality.
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