Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to kamm
Re: Daniel Berninger - conflict of interest?
Slashing the budget won't bring anyone home or solve anything. It needed to be stopped before it started. But since the congress is spineless, and we've got a cowboy in the executive branch, with a bunch of 3rd termers (1st was Bush senior for most of those guys) as his cabinet; we're there. If we just pull out all it once it would be civil war, followed by an invasion by Iran. You want Iran to control more of our oil supply, AND share a border with Saudi Arabia, where we get MOST of our oil? Bad Idea.
Back on topic, we can slash the USF without making any budget cuts, because the money it collects isn't doing anything anyway. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
1 edit | said by Ahrenl  :Slashing the budget won't bring anyone home or solve anything. It needed to be stopped before it started. A budget cut means the whole Iraqi adventure is over...
But since the congress is spineless, and we've got a cowboy in the executive branch, with a bunch of 3rd termers (1st was Bush senior for most of those guys) as his cabinet; we're there. If we just pull out all it once it would be civil war, followed by an invasion by Iran. You want Iran to control more of our oil supply, AND share a border with Saudi Arabia, where we get MOST of our oil? Bad Idea.
Cut the nonsense.
Iran would never invade Iraq - they are not stupid to put up with the same shit we can't fight already.
Yes, we should pull out and pay for the damages we caused. This is the international law. By the way the law also says the Occupant cannot change/move the population by force, cannot bring detainees out of their country, cannot install a goverment on its own and must provide the security of the population etc etc.
We have already failed on all counts.
We are losers, let's face it. A bunch of arrogant losers, without any fuckin' idea how to win a war - no wonder we have lost every full-blown war we've been involved since WWII (which, interestingly enough, was also the last real war where we've fought on the good side.)
Back on topic, we can slash the USF without making any budget cuts, because the money it collects isn't doing anything anyway.
I agree. |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| Yeah, I'd contend we did none of those things. Personally you sound like a raving loon. Iran would absolutely invade Iraq in a heartbeat. Their oil production is declining, and is projected to continue to do so; it's one of the legitimate reasons why they want nuclear power. You're living with blinders on...
All your points about Iraq are laughably incorrect, it's not even worth discounting them one by one. They're just all wrong, and any sane person can see how. So there's no need for me to go through them. I'm sure you won't accept that, but you wouldn't have accepted the truth about each anyway. I'll make a sign for you that you can carry around that says "Support genocidal dictators who Invade their neighbors". |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
 ·epix
1 edit | Ahrenl
I couldn't possibly agree more with your posts 
Amen to that.
BTW: Liberals lose ideologically based elections-- Unless they can convince voters that they aren't liberal  |
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