ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
 ·AT&T Midwest
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July 17th, @12:07PM
| U-verse node in Milwaukee area?
OK, it's actually in Shorewood on the 4000 block of N Stowell Ave, just north of Capitol Drive. The photo is looking south on Stowell to the intersection with Capitol.
The sidewalk is marked "AT&T FO" and the cabinet sits in the right-of-way. The fiber runs from a manhole on Capitol Drive, past the cabinet, and the markings (apparently not FO) continue N-NE to a pole in the alley between Stowell and Downer Ave. I didn't check to see what was up on the pole.
This is just a bit more than 1/2 mile from MILWWI22 at 1830 E Capitol Drive.
I took video from all sides if anyone wants more, but there's not much to see.
Speculation is invited, knowledge welcome. Thanks.
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dslwanter
Broadband blackhole no more
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join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH | Re: Lightspeed node in Milwaukee area?
Honey, pack the bags and get the kids ready, we're moving. |
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI | Ok now the question is have they made a franchise agreement with Shorewood to offer u-verse?
I have not heard of anything in WI yet.
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI | I checked with the village, and their position is that the box is illegal. That's all I have right now, but this should be interesting. |
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dslwanter
Broadband blackhole no more
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join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH | Well like I've said before if they don't want it, we'll gladly take it here. |
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waynemr
join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI
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My Gawd! That thing is huge! I wonder how long it will be before it gets "tagged"? Couldn't they put it underground?
I've heard that these things are noisy too, because they have built-in cooling systems. Does anyone else know much about these big boxes? |
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| said by waynemr  :My Gawd! That thing is huge! I wonder how long it will be before it gets "tagged"? Couldn't they put it underground? I've heard that these things are noisy too, because they have built-in cooling systems. Does anyone else know much about these big boxes? Regarding the aesthetic issues, it looks like this issue is dead center on the radar of Wisconsin municipalities. Additionally this 31 May 2006 newsletter has two other articles related to AT&T's efforts: »www.wiscities.org/newsletter.htm
Also I thought this was for FTTH but apparently I haven't been reading things too carefully, because as you probably know this is for FTTN. I'd like to blame it on the heat, but really, I'm just a caveman. Your technology confuses me.
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI
·AT&T Midwest
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I seem to be walking away scratching my head more and more with u-verse/lightspeed implementation.
Why is ATT putting up these boxes where everyone is fighting it?
Don't they talk with any of these townships before hand?
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kherr
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join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL
clubs: | They can put one of those boxes in my yard(front, back, middle) and I won't say a thing!! |
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| said by kherr :They can put one of those boxes in my yard(front, back, middle) and I won't say a thing!! It wouldn't be unreasonable to start from the position of totally free service for the life of the lease for yourself and all subsequent homeowners.
If they've got a better offer from a neighbor, tell them you want landscaping, an attached playhouse or potting shed to screen it, driveway plowing and a reasonable rent with inflation clause. That way, it could be a selling point when you move, as long as people wouldn't mind potential tech visits at all times of the day.
For something this size, they should be negotiating leases like the cellular carriers do, not using perceived monopoly power to put stuff whereever they want.
They would love to start up in the most densely-populated municipality in Wisconsin but the catch is that retrofitting with small lots and aerial utilities in backyards is going to be a tough sell.
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waynemr
join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI
| reply to ArgMeMatey
a little perspective |
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Paulg
Formerly Arctic Wolf
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join:2004-03-15
Hubbell, MI
clubs: | reply to ArgMeMatey
Perhaps its illegal because its too close to the road?
I have a feeling a snowplow would destroy that thing in no time in the winter..
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StillLearn
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join:2002-03-21
Streamwood, IL | Often the concern is that Lightspeed could deliver TV content without the town getting a rakeoff. |
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
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said by Paulg :Perhaps its illegal because its too close to the road? I have a feeling a snowplow would destroy that thing in no time in the winter.. I believe the "illegality" has more to do with it being in effect cable TV equipment and not just telecommunications equipment. The village wants a franchise agreement before any more of these appear.
I agree that at the very least salt spray could be an issue, however the right-of-way on most streets here is too narrow for any other placement. For example at my house the ROW is 70' wide or 35' on either side of the street center line.
15' Street
10' Curb & grass boulevard
6' Sidewalk
4' Grass to my property line
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35'
So without dealing with me, moving the sidewalk or going underground they have nowhere else to go.
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Paulg
Formerly Arctic Wolf
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join:2004-03-15
Hubbell, MI
clubs: | reply to StillLearn
I know that, but from my view, it still looks like a snowplow would either destroy that, or it would give the village a real headache trying to plow around it
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djdanska
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join:2001-04-21
Tampa, FL
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said by Paulg :Perhaps its illegal because its too close to the road? I have a feeling a snowplow would destroy that thing in no time in the winter.. That or a car or two. I can see a drunk driver plow right into that thing!
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StillLearn
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join:2002-03-21
Streamwood, IL | reply to Paulg
It seems farther from the road than a fire hydrant. |
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waynemr
join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI | reply to ArgMeMatey
I've recently heard that AT&T is requesting to install between 500 and 600 of these in the city of Madison. |
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| said by waynemr :I've recently heard that AT&T is requesting to install between 500 and 600 of these in the city of Madison. Interesting stuff.
If you hear any other tidbits please share it with us.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | reply to ArgMeMatey
Interesting. That looks very similar to our U-verse boxes, except ours are about half that thickness. Those must serve more people or something.
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