Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| What he says isn't wrong. quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it.
We aren't...
The guy is a pompous ass, and usually so full of himself it stinks, but he's not wrong on this one. | |
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 Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: What he says isn't wrong. He's not wrong, but he didn't say anything. All he said was that if there was no new technological innovation (which is, I guess what we'll get if the telco's get their way) then with today's technology you can't stream HD video to 10's of millions at the same time. Well, maybe with I2, but it's a dumb discussion because there will be technological advances, and there already are piles of improvements yet to be implemented. Of course if you let the duopoly restrict innovators from being able to do this, then yes he would be absolutely correct. | |
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 | bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
| Re: What he says isn't wrong. I have the idea on how to broadcast the Superbowl without clogging the entire internet with everyone trying to connect to server banks streaming but I have yet to find someone to work with. Ironically I emailed Mr. Cuban two days ago and now it appears in a blog....
I can get it to work if I had three smart people and a bucket of cash. Instead I would prefer to get a utility patent and probably have some big oligopoly buy it up (like Network television).
It is simple solution too.
Just my 2 cents...Flame Lightly | |
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| | markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | Re: What he says isn't wrong. But its not possible because the internet is made of "tubes", and you try to cram lots of stuff in these "tubes" its gonna slow down..:P | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
| Re: What he says isn't wrong. said by markopoleo  :But its not possible because the internet is made of "tubes", and you try to cram lots of stuff in these "tubes" its gonna slow down..:P ... your private 'internet'.  | |
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SandShark
So it goes
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-23
Santa Fe, TX
clubs:
1 edit | He's a self-made pompous ass that can put his money where his mouth is. That makes him different than most other pompous asses. | |
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| gwba
join:2006-02-09
Barling, AR | Re: What he says isn't wrong. But he couldn't buy an NBA championship or intimidate himself one either. Considering the source, who cares. | |
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| | vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | Re: What he says isn't wrong. It's not purchasable when you have money-wielding superstars like Wade who just so happens to be a foul-magnet. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. | |
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
| Re: What he says isn't wrong. said by Nightfall :said by Karl Bode : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. I agree Karl Broadband is a very young technology when you think about it. The first homes were being outfitted with broadband back in 1995. In 1996 is when @Home really started deploying to home in major cities. Gee, thats only 10 years ago. Who knows what will come in the next 10 years or 50 years for that matter. and 3 years before that in the early 90's... 56k was groundbreaking to the average home user.
For Cuban to say that this is impossible is just to focus attention on his company. I remember when they said that CD's wouldn't replace cassettes, and if you had talked about something like the 'iPod' back then that would allow you to hold 10k songs in your pocket, you would have been locked up in the technoasylum.
There are different kinds of vision and Cuban obviously is short or narrow sighted. | |
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| RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
 ·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | Anyone besides me see irony in the technical quality increasing while the program quality decreases at an even faster rate? If I want "reality" I'll look out my window.
Cuban's a tool, but until someone figures out how to efficiently broadcast real HD content to millions of Internet receivers at a time at a cost comparable to current television he's right. Even cable companies have come to this realization, pushing their digital distribution deeper into the network to save bandwidth. Broadcast technology (yeah, even good old OTA) is far superior to individual connections to each receiver since it costs the same to transmit to one viewer as it costs for ten million. Imagine HBO having to run a separate cable to every subscriber. That's essentially what we've got now for Internet video. It is grossly inefficient.
True multicast would help. Where'd that end up anyway?
edit: word order
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Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
| Re: What he says isn't wrong. said by RadioDoc :Anyone besides me see irony in the technical quality increasing while the program quality decreases at an even faster rate? If I want "reality" I'll look out my window. I think it's a natural byproduct. You have to produce more content faster... quality is bound to suffer. | |
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| moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by Karl Bode : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. We went from barely being able to control flight to going into outer space and out own moon in under 100 years.
We humans can do things if we try hard enough. | |
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
Premium
join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC | Re: What he says isn't wrong. Unless you believe the argument that we didn't really go to the moon and that it was all a publicity stunt done in hollywood...  | |
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peter_m
Premium
join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC
2 edits | Well the part of "Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasn't been invented yet" pretty much covers all his bases. He will be right in all cases but he obviously is saying it WON'T happen. And like the original posting says, he is kissing up to cable companies.
The problem is that this breakthrough will probably come some time in the future... My personal opinion is that we will see it in this life time.
He probably just wants something from the big cable companies and just needs to sound credible to them. Has nothing to do with being technically right or wrong. Too bad he is arrogant about it. | |
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GigahertZ420
join:2001-10-02
Fairbanks, AK
| we don't need breathrough technology to deploy video to tens of millions of customers. We just need the last mile providers to get off their asses and implement a minimum of XX (double digit) MB download speeds.
If were talking HD streams then yes, we need signifcantly more investment. If we can get away with standard resolution video we could implement quite literally now in several markets.
The only one's even remotely capable of doing this is Verizon. | |
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| backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | Re: What he says isn't wrong. agreed...
most people don't have high def sets yet so why do they need to stream high def? normal would be fine thanks | |
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| said by Wills : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it. We aren't... The guy is a pompous ass, and usually so full of himself it stinks, but he's not wrong on this one. I couldn't agree more. He's not stupid (which is why he's a gazillionare, owns a pro sports team, and can rant on his blog and people will listen), and he's spot-on. We can't do this. We're not even close to being able to handle this.
That doesn't mean there isn't still a place for the technology though. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
1 edit | said by Wills :There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it. We aren't... ..so it's proven it's impossible, eh?
ROFLMAO, this is priceless. | |
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA
| First, I think he is just performing cooperative PR with those he is doing business in in terms of the traditional HD providers, especially those he has agreements with for his own personal HD channels.
But I have to say, I have lost a lot of respect for this individual. In one hand he preaches high-definition, but in the other hand he allows those partners to reduce the definition of the channels he brings to them for rebroadcast.
Now, he acts like things evolve 'overnight', but they do not. I remember the 2400-baud days and the days in which T1's were the 'top of the hill' in bandwidth. Not we have 10-100 GigE in our cores and >10Mbps home connectivity solutions rolling out. Its not beyond anyone's lifetime reading this today.
The future is simple. Either the broadband market will fail, or it will continue to evolve to a point that HD streams in real-time will be a delivered product. He should look forward to that so Mr. Cuban's business can skip the middlemen and deliver his sermon directly to the HD-followers. | |
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