vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | reply to gwba
Re: What he says isn't wrong.
It's not purchasable when you have money-wielding superstars like Wade who just so happens to be a foul-magnet.  |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to King P
said by King P  :Unless you believe the argument that we didn't really go to the moon and that it was all a publicity stunt done in hollywood...  SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Or I'll punch you in the mouth.
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GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA
| reply to Wills
First, I think he is just performing cooperative PR with those he is doing business in in terms of the traditional HD providers, especially those he has agreements with for his own personal HD channels.
But I have to say, I have lost a lot of respect for this individual. In one hand he preaches high-definition, but in the other hand he allows those partners to reduce the definition of the channels he brings to them for rebroadcast.
Now, he acts like things evolve 'overnight', but they do not. I remember the 2400-baud days and the days in which T1's were the 'top of the hill' in bandwidth. Not we have 10-100 GigE in our cores and >10Mbps home connectivity solutions rolling out. Its not beyond anyone's lifetime reading this today.
The future is simple. Either the broadband market will fail, or it will continue to evolve to a point that HD streams in real-time will be a delivered product. He should look forward to that so Mr. Cuban's business can skip the middlemen and deliver his sermon directly to the HD-followers. |
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
Premium
join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC | reply to moonpuppy
Unless you believe the argument that we didn't really go to the moon and that it was all a publicity stunt done in hollywood... |
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gwba
join:2006-02-09
Barling, AR | reply to SandShark
But he couldn't buy an NBA championship or intimidate himself one either. Considering the source, who cares. |
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
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said by RadioDoc :Anyone besides me see irony in the technical quality increasing while the program quality decreases at an even faster rate? If I want "reality" I'll look out my window. I think it's a natural byproduct. You have to produce more content faster... quality is bound to suffer. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
| reply to markopoleo
said by markopoleo :But its not possible because the internet is made of "tubes", and you try to cram lots of stuff in these "tubes" its gonna slow down..:P ... your private 'internet'. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
1 edit | reply to Wills
said by Wills :There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it. We aren't... ..so it's proven it's impossible, eh?
ROFLMAO, this is priceless. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. We went from barely being able to control flight to going into outer space and out own moon in under 100 years.
We humans can do things if we try hard enough. |
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
| reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall :said by Karl Bode : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. I agree Karl Broadband is a very young technology when you think about it. The first homes were being outfitted with broadband back in 1995. In 1996 is when @Home really started deploying to home in major cities. Gee, thats only 10 years ago. Who knows what will come in the next 10 years or 50 years for that matter. and 3 years before that in the early 90's... 56k was groundbreaking to the average home user.
For Cuban to say that this is impossible is just to focus attention on his company. I remember when they said that CD's wouldn't replace cassettes, and if you had talked about something like the 'iPod' back then that would allow you to hold 10k songs in your pocket, you would have been locked up in the technoasylum.
There are different kinds of vision and Cuban obviously is short or narrow sighted. |
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| reply to Wills
said by Wills : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
There is nothing here, said by him, that is incorrect. If it was possible to be doing this, we'd be doing it. We aren't... The guy is a pompous ass, and usually so full of himself it stinks, but he's not wrong on this one. I couldn't agree more. He's not stupid (which is why he's a gazillionare, owns a pro sports team, and can rant on his blog and people will listen), and he's spot-on. We can't do this. We're not even close to being able to handle this.
That doesn't mean there isn't still a place for the technology though. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | reply to bigjimc
But its not possible because the internet is made of "tubes", and you try to cram lots of stuff in these "tubes" its gonna slow down..:P |
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
| reply to Ahrenl
I have the idea on how to broadcast the Superbowl without clogging the entire internet with everyone trying to connect to server banks streaming but I have yet to find someone to work with. Ironically I emailed Mr. Cuban two days ago and now it appears in a blog....
I can get it to work if I had three smart people and a bucket of cash. Instead I would prefer to get a utility patent and probably have some big oligopoly buy it up (like Network television).
It is simple solution too.
Just my 2 cents...Flame Lightly |
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | reply to Karl Bode
Anyone besides me see irony in the technical quality increasing while the program quality decreases at an even faster rate? If I want "reality" I'll look out my window.
Cuban's a tool, but until someone figures out how to efficiently broadcast real HD content to millions of Internet receivers at a time at a cost comparable to current television he's right. Even cable companies have come to this realization, pushing their digital distribution deeper into the network to save bandwidth. Broadcast technology (yeah, even good old OTA) is far superior to individual connections to each receiver since it costs the same to transmit to one viewer as it costs for ten million. Imagine HBO having to run a separate cable to every subscriber. That's essentially what we've got now for Internet video. It is grossly inefficient.
True multicast would help. Where'd that end up anyway?
edit: word order
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
 ·Comcast
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode : quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. I agree Karl
Broadband is a very young technology when you think about it. The first homes were being outfitted with broadband back in 1995. In 1996 is when @Home really started deploying to home in major cities. Gee, thats only 10 years ago. Who knows what will come in the next 10 years or 50 years for that matter.
He is right that HDTV is growing. People want to see more and more broadcasts of shows in high quality picture and sound. He is also right that we can't do that right now to millions of american homes over existing broadband. However, there are solutions that are being deployed such as fiber. New technology is on the horizon that will make bringing these things into the home a reality in the coming years.
Just not right now....
On a side note, am I the only one who actually admires Mark Cuban? True, he may be someone who overinflates himself, but the guy has a great business sense to him. Plus, I think of him as a pretty good entertainer. 
Just my .02 cents.
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | reply to GigahertZ420
agreed...
most people don't have high def sets yet so why do they need to stream high def? normal would be fine thanks |
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GigahertZ420
join:2001-10-02
Fairbanks, AK
| reply to Wills
we don't need breathrough technology to deploy video to tens of millions of customers. We just need the last mile providers to get off their asses and implement a minimum of XX (double digit) MB download speeds.
If were talking HD streams then yes, we need signifcantly more investment. If we can get away with standard resolution video we could implement quite literally now in several markets.
The only one's even remotely capable of doing this is Verizon. |
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peter_m
Premium
join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC
2 edits | reply to Wills
Well the part of "Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasn't been invented yet" pretty much covers all his bases. He will be right in all cases but he obviously is saying it WON'T happen. And like the original posting says, he is kissing up to cable companies.
The problem is that this breakthrough will probably come some time in the future... My personal opinion is that we will see it in this life time.
He probably just wants something from the big cable companies and just needs to sound credible to them. Has nothing to do with being technically right or wrong. Too bad he is arrogant about it. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| reply to Wills
quote:
Want to deliver the SuperBowl or American Idol in HD in realtime to 10s of millions of simultaneous viewers ? Not in this lifetime without some breakthrough technology that hasnt been invented yet.
Bold is the part I find likely incorrect. And if live American Idol broadcasts are all broadband video needs to be on par with traditional cable television, consider me unimpressed with the argument. |
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SandShark
So it goes
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-23
Santa Fe, TX
clubs:
1 edit | reply to Wills
He's a self-made pompous ass that can put his money where his mouth is. That makes him different than most other pompous asses. |
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