  BayStBoi
@sympatico.ca
| reply to hopetindall Re: [Extreme] Hot off the wire: Rogers annouces 18Meg service
Can you name any area in the US that has multiple cable providers in the same jurisdiction?
Cable by its physical nature is a monopoly, so you'll never get competition in that sense. For that reason, you'd never see any US providers coming up to compete even if they were allowed to as they would have to re-wire their own cable networks throughout neighbourhoods.
The only competition can come in the form that currently exists like 3web, where the local cable company has to offer to resell their services at wholesale prices to a competitior. |
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  idlewillkill Go Blue Premium join:2005-09-28 North York, ON 1 edit | reply to hopetindall RCN is an overbuilder in the US, I don't know that they're the incumbent cableco anywhere. »www.rcn.com/ |
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  Newfie
join:2001-05-08 St John'S, NL
| reply to Makaveli998 said by Makaveli998 :I think they should offer a 10mbps/2mbps service for like $59.99 and drop extreme to $39.99 at 8mbps/1mbps Express to $29.99 at 5mbps/800mbps And the lower speeds drop there price by 5 dollars a month. I think that Rogers should give everyone service for free, but we don't always get what we want. They're a business, they're not in it to take a loss, they're in it to make money.
said by Makaveli998 :I wish one of those american cable providers would move up to canada, and give rogers some competition this monopoly BS is hurting internet in canada. Blame the CRTC. |
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  Thudo Vaughan, Ontario
join:2002-04-09
| reply to hopetindall Rogers New 18mbit Account + 1mbit Upstream (if thats what it will be) + Throttled passed 100-150mb download = Unadulterated and Absolute BS x 50 !
I have the 6mbit and am beyond happy with $45/month + its 1mbit up.. Wow.. this could turn into lackluster Rogers once more. Thank gawd for 6mbit!!!!! -- Rogers Business Class / Your download speed : 3747152 bps, or 3659 kbps.A 457.4 KB/sec transfer rate.Your upload speed : 618429 bps, or 603 kbps. /*Waiting for Business Extreme!!* |
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 short09
join:2006-07-21 | reply to hopetindall 1gb is a dvd quality movie rip. so those bastards are gonna charge for downloading a movie. this is just another sign of cable companies ripping off consumers |
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  BayStBoi
@sympatico.ca
| reply to hopetindall The pricing and overage charges appear to be right in line with what the Bell Optimax service is being advertised as, so it's not just cable companies.
As for the charge for a DVD, based on your numbers, you'd be able to download 100 of them at "no charge" based on your monthly service fee. Only over that would you start paying on a "per dvd or per GB" basis.
Some would argue that the more you use / consume, the more you should have to pay. Is that really a rip-off? Also, keep in mind no one is forcing you to move to this tier. Those selecting it would be doing so knowing what the potential charges are up-front. |
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 drunkgoat
join:2004-04-18 | internet pricing is starting to resemble cell phone plans (not a good thing).
Maybe we will see rogers offering extra GB packages to add onto your monthly plan, sort of like buying extra minuets on your cell phone plan. |
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  hopetindall
@rogers.com
| Sorry -
But I don't think this is out of line.
If you look at what the ADSL resellers are paying per Gig for transit - these rates really aren't that unreasonable.
Would I like it cheaper - absolutely!
Thats why I'm sticking with EXTREME.
PHT |
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 thenay
join:2004-10-05 Brampton, ON | reply to hopetindall If the cap was 200gb i'd think about it, but at 100gb forget it. I'll stick to my 6mbps connection with the same cap. Sure its 12mbps faster but why put a ferrari on a small track. |
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  sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 H0H 0H0
·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host: Rogers Bell Canada
| I can't justify double the price for 3 times the speed. If they'd come in at say $69 for a 15bps tier, then I might consider it.
Like others, Express at 5mbps and Extreme at 6mbps are just too close together. Extreme should be at 9 or so mbps. |
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 Manesh
join:2005-07-29 | reply to hopetindall Can someone please show me a ISP thats 20mbps with UNLIMTIED access...I know there wont be any out there.... |
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  Anon5757
@rogers.com
| reply to hopetindall Well, I don't care about upload because I do not torrent. The extra speed in downloading would be very nice, but the 100 GB cap is not. Does anyone know if they will cap the excess capacity amount at say, $40, so that your maximum bill will be $140? If that happens, I'm sold. |
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  Snickerdo Premium join:2001-02-28 Niagara Falls, ON
| reply to puzz1ed said by puzz1ed :Apparently, Cogeco raised their top speed to 16Mbps yesterday and was touting it as the fastest. It also has a 100GB limit but is a lot cheaper. Looks like Rogers just wants to top them on paper. Not many people will sign up at $99/month plus overages so they don't actually have to deliver much. While nowhere official, the smell of 20/2 is the next logical step for Cogeco Pro, while Standard will probably be bumped to 10/1. They've maintained a 'fastest, anywhere' slogan for a while. They won't let Rogers ruin that for them. Also, Cogeco doesn't charge for overage, they just wag their finger if you upload too much. -- Bigot - Someone that has won an argument with a Liberal. Yes, I CanChat. Can You? www.fiberal.ca |
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  illpay140
@sympatico.ca | reply to Anon5757 if you dont torrent how would you kill a 100g cap ? irc ? |
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  anon38944
@rogers.com | "if you dont torrent how would you kill a 100g cap ? irc ?"
Simple answer. Newsgroups. |
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  Bender_2k
join:2003-01-12 clubs:  | reply to hopetindall Or if you're on a home network. 100 GB's divided by 4 computers isn't that much. |
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  daT CSM 101 Premium join:2002-09-15 Toronto, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to hopetindall LMAO...
Let me say that again... LMAO.
100 bucks, a barely noticeable change in upload stream, caps and throttling... not to mention any word about p2p (and whine all you want.. p2p is here to stay and being embraced on a global scale at the corporate level by even RIAA and MPAA)...
That is just beyond silly.
And 1.25 per GB... wonder what the markup on that is?
Have a nice day and thank you for choosing Roger$ -- daTerminehtor |
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  Anon5757
@rogers.com
| reply to hopetindall I (we) easily fill 100 GB without torrenting because there are five of us living in the same house. We're all university students at the University of Waterloo, and we're all in engineering or mathematics.
We would be very willing to pay $30 x 5 = $150 per month for the 18 Mb connection (even with 1 Mb up, we don't care) provided we can get at least 300 GB. |
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  R1P0FF
@rogers.com | reply to hopetindall Who cares a 100 GB cap for 100 $. a joke. |
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 Hyper6
join:2006-01-03 Hamilton, ON
1 edit | reply to hopetindall man this is a joke the way internet is going i am probally going to end up moving to th eunitted states where fios is availible. anyways rogers is getting to greedy and so are other cable isp's and something bad is going to spread but that is their own fault.
anyways my freind is enjoying his unlimited FiOS in new jersey for 50 $ a month. he gets usenet, unlimited bandwidth, and a 20/5 speed.
Amazing rip off, i dont think this 18mbs actaulyl costed them anything extra the only reason they did it is because of optimax. i really hope you guys dont become suckers and pay for this package. just google, nothing is impossible  |
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