  HiVolt 29 Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON clubs:
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| reply to hopetindall Re: [Extreme] Hot off the wire: Rogers annouces 18Meg service
So let me get this straight. $100/month for 100GB cap, traffic shaping, lame email/webspace, AND they plan to charge for over usage with that flaky web usage tool? Ted's got balls. -- ·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ |
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| said by HiVolt :So let me get this straight. $100/month for 100GB cap, traffic shaping, lame email/webspace, AND they plan to charge for over usage with that flaky web usage tool? Ted's got balls. Must be suffering from cancer if he's doing stuff this stupid! -- [Internet] Rogers Yahoo! Extreme 5mbps/800kbps [Modem] Scientific Atlanta WebSTAR DPX2100 DOCSIS 2.0 [Router] WRT54g DD-WRT #23 SP1 [Computer] P4 2.53GHz 2048MB RAM BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC Sound Blaster Audigy 160GB RAID 0 |
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  Solar1um Unlimited Premium join:2005-01-10 Lévis - QC
| reply to HiVolt said by HiVolt :So let me get this straight. $100/month for 100GB cap, traffic shaping, lame email/webspace, AND they plan to charge for over usage with that flaky web usage tool? Ted's got balls. Good resume :-( |
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  Leathal Premium join:2002-02-09 Toronto, ON
| reply to HiVolt said by HiVolt :So let me get this straight. $100/month for 100GB cap, traffic shaping, lame email/webspace, AND they plan to charge for over usage with that flaky web usage tool? Ted's got balls. Hey HiVolt,
I'd like you to find me dedicated ADSL with more than 100GB cap, and less than $100 per month. PPPoE doesn't count as it has a lot more over head than cable. Cable is direct, so is dedicated ADSL..
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  Snickerdo Premium join:2001-02-28 Niagara Falls, ON
| said by Leathal :PPPoE doesn't count as it has a lot more over head than cable. Cable is direct, so is dedicated ADSL.. BZZT, wrong. PPPoE does not cause the overhead on a DSL connection, but rather it is the ATM encapsulation that causes the overhead. This occurs regardless of the type of ADSL being used, be it bridged, PPPoE, whatever. You will always loose 15% of the 'actual' value on the DSLAM sync speed. The same applies to cable, but the formula is a bit different. The difference here is that Bell advertises sync speed, while Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw, etc advertise IP speed. It's not at all a big deal. -- Bigot - Someone that has won an argument with a Liberal. Yes, I CanChat. Can You? www.fiberal.ca |
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| Snickerdo ... While strictly speaking the discussion on PPPoE is OT here, you're splitting hairs and even then, to say "BZZT, wrong" is itself, wrong.
PPPoE (strictly PPP and PPPoE encapsulation) introduces an 8 octet overhead all by itself. So, on a small packet (like an ACK packet) of say 40 bytes, the PPPoE overhead is significant all by itself. On a full packet of 1500 octets, the PPPoE overhead is small.
However, there are many encapsulations that must be performed on most ADSL PPPoE connections including MAC, PPPoE, PPP, ATM, etc. that are not included on a pure ethernet connection and are are therefore considered in a generalized way as the PPPoE overhead.
For a detailed description of the layers and overheads on a DSL connection, see this »www.oplnk.net/files/WhitePaper_E···eads.pdf
So, now to return to our regularly scheduled program of discussion of Rogers stuff. |
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