King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC
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Re: Ed Whitacre Needs New Shoes
Maybe the reason that the web can't handle these "intensive" apps is because Whitacre pissed away the billions of dollars the government gave him and the other telcos to have fiber laid to all of our homes by 2006.
This nonsense about the web not being able to "handle" apps and software is complete and utter crap. It's not a software developers fault that the Telcos would rather spend precious money lobbying to have municipal fiber initiatives shut down, than invest that money into their own infrastructure to make it better and more "app and software" friendly.
Ed Whitacre is full of crap. Everyone with half a brain cell knows that copper can only go so far and that Fiber is the next step for Telco evolution, but Whitacre would rather whine about people getting a "free ride" on his network and spend money lobbying congress and buying off the FCC. |
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mackieg4
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join:2003-03-24
Riverside, CA
| Thank you for that response.
We've been paying these extra "fees" for years on the promise of higher bandwidth. What happened? NOTHING.
Verizon was at least able to bring 30M (now 50M I believe).
Why can Korea have 100M download when we're stuck with 6M with AT&T?
I say BULLSHIT with AT&T. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with them because they are my local provider.
Primis1, you must be a telco cheerleader or employee. |
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short09
join:2006-07-21
| said by mackieg4  :We've been paying these extra "fees" for years on the promise of higher bandwidth. What happened? NOTHING. Why can Korea have 100M download when we're stuck with 6M with AT&T? koreans pay 41 cents per mb of speed. they dont have anywhere near the amount of bullshit regulations that the usa telcos have. if any such regulations exist im not aware of them. im not sure how long it took korea to deploy 100mb speeds. each korean household gets affordable and fast broadband
the usa telco companies whine to congress about competition in certain regions. they go on tv and talk about mergers. claiming its gonna bring better service faster speeds and lower prices. thats just a bunch of lies. time after time the american people get ripped off by the telcos and regulations. if one single regulation didnt exist american subscribers would have 100mbit cable speeds for maybe $50 - $60 a month tops |
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| reply to King P
said by King P :Maybe the reason that the web can't handle these "intensive" apps is because Whitacre pissed away the billions of dollars the government gave him and the other telcos to have fiber laid to all of our homes by 2006. This nonsense about the web not being able to "handle" apps and software is complete and utter crap. It's not a software developers fault that the Telcos would rather spend precious money lobbying to have municipal fiber initiatives shut down, than invest that money into their own infrastructure to make it better and more "app and software" friendly. Ed Whitacre is full of crap. Everyone with half a brain cell knows that copper can only go so far and that Fiber is the next step for Telco evolution, but Whitacre would rather whine about people getting a "free ride" on his network and spend money lobbying congress and buying off the FCC. OK, since you're so determined that web-based OS's and apps need to exist... WHY do they need to exist? Give us VALID reasons why they should exist and are absolutely necessary, aside from software companies sensing the gravy train just around the corner.
You can't, none of you can. And that's the point. When it dawns on you finally too, you'll also feel dumb that you ever bought into this whole line of BS and didn't see what was really unfolding before your eyes -- the 100% loss of right of software ownership.
You and anyone else who can't see this is a sucker. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| You have never owned any software. Not a single one! It has always been the property of the company that made it.
Also, the market will decide EVERYTHING when it comes to bandwidth and such. No website is going to purchase more bandwidth then it needs and no provider is going to charge less then they need to to make a profit.
If Google releases some very traffic intense application on their website and they want their customers to be able to use it then they will purchase more bandwidth. If they go to thier provider (Verizon, AT&T or whoever) and say I need 10,000,000Gbps bandwidth per month then that provider is free to charge whatever they feel Google will pay that will earn them a profit. If those 2 can't meet, then Google is free to shop and find that. If it can't be found, then Google can't release that product yet. It is the way the internet has ALWAYS worked and the way it SHOULD ALWAYS work. This is also true of any other market, as it should be. |
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g3ski
join:2004-07-19
San Francisco, CA
| reply to Primis1
Web based apps are not clogging the pipes. VOIP+torrents are taking up the largest share of web traffic. Podcasts, vlogs, youtube, etc are starting to make up a larger portion of the bandwidth also. That is why providers are traffic shaping voip and torrents. Salesforce.com and other hosted apps are not the problem - ever heard an ISP mention they were going to traffic shape on hosted apps?
The best point made on this forum is that Koreans not only get 100Mb for less than $50/mo, but also that speed is available to most households. The Korean govt and people wanted it to happen and made it happen. In the US many areas are still on dialup, and broadband is limited to 512Kb in areas. That truely sad for a country that can spend billions/day in Iraq (or name other poorly allocated tax dollar here).
Our cel phone, internet, and even power grid are way behind - and the us is supposed to be some sort of world leader. |
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