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Transmaster
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Here we go again

Well who paid off this clown. If he were a competent engineer instead of a political hack we would not be messing with this crap at all.

I just read the MO&O and the FCC has just stepped on a bunch of toes. How ever there is one bright spot this ruling states BPL emissions have to be 20 DB below usual type 15 emission levels.

»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···73A1.doc

It will still be economics that will kill this trash technology.

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Aggie Dan
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reply to Transmaster
"holds great promise as a ubiquitous broadband solution that would offer a viable alternative to cable, digital subscriber line, fiber, and wireless broadband solutions"
He missed satellite. So, unless I messed up my counting, we've got 5 non-interfering options for broadband deployment (all shooting for 30% market share at least in order to remain profitable) in one corner and a single option that has had almost every trial stopped due to interference issues.

What a knucklehead.
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reply to Transmaster
Clown? Kevvie is the fucking Ringmaster.

If you ever needed proof that he's only interested in feathering his next nest with his current position, there you have it.
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reply to Transmaster
said by Transmaster See Profile :

Well who paid off this clown.

Then the accusation should be applied to all 5 FCC commissioners, not just Martin. Not 1 of the 5 spoke out against this ruling. And the 4 that did comment individually, agreed it was good to let BPL go forward. And they all said the ARRL should not be worried because they will keep an eye on interference issues.

I don't agree with them that BPL will become this great new broadband competitor, however. BPL will never be anything but a niche player and won't become the savior of rural broadband - the economics just isn't there.
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RadioDoc
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You can easily apply the accusation to all five. They climb out of the same car.
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guitarzan
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reply to Transmaster
said by Transmaster See Profile :

Well who paid off this
clown.
That was my first thought, Transmaster, from reading the news topic. I guess this azzhat, has not learned to spell fiber optic, why is it, the higher the career position, the dumber these asshats become.?

With such hot weather, the power grids are at max capacity as it is now try to meet increasing demands. I truly wish BPL was up and running now, just to get a good laugh and a, see we told you that would happen, when overloaded power grids explode or do whatever they do, to place large areas in the dark for a week or so. I bet not many people would want BPL then.
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said by guitarzan See Profile :

I truly wish BPL was up and running now, just to get a good laugh and a, see we told you that would happen, when overloaded power grids explode or do whatever they do, to place large areas in the dark for a week or so. I bet not many people would want BPL then.
I doubt someone would be worried very much about losing their broadband if their power was out for a week. Loss of BPL at the same time you lose power is a minor part of your problems.
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reply to GOLFnSUN
said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

And they all said the ARRL should not be worried because they will keep an eye on interference issues.
Complete BS! They haven't responded to the interference issues. They have dragged their feet and will continue to do so until forced otherwise.

zacharysc

join:2006-08-03
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reply to Transmaster
I think they should maybe work to find better ways to provide faster internet service to the rural community. Living only 3 miles from town and not havng a dang faster connection besides satellite. (Which I'm not counting has high speed, either should they. Satellite is slow, horrible, and very costly.)

I'm stuck with dial-up, everyone else should be lucky they have something faster such as cable, DSL, or Fiber Optics. Stop being so damn greedy is what I say.

Though BPL "may be a new hope", it will inevitably crash. And most new services, even "long-distance" wireless (eg. WiMAX) is only going to be offered to suburban/urbab communities where there is already a wide variety of services.

I won't complain though if BPL was actually used for good, such as powering up the Rural community with faster internet. (Doubtful to happen.)

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reply to GOLFnSUN
I lose power a lot. As long as the UPS (and soon to be generator) holds out I have DSL internet (as long as the power loss is the 80% that does not hit the DSLAM). If that happens then I get on the 10K (yup, 10K) dialup, if I need to.
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reply to 53059959

You sure it wasn't this guy?
Maybe this is the guy, as the OP put it, "paid this clown off."
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PDXPLT

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reply to Aggie Dan
said by aggie2 See Profile :

...a single option that has had almost every trial stopped due to interference issues.
To be fair, almost all those trials were based on technology from a single supplier, one with known interference issues.

OTOH, the BPL deployment in Cinncinati hasn't had any complaints, and Motorola's BPL has been OK as well.

I'll agree that the economics vs. the competition look real tough; e.g., 'looks like a non-starter for rural deployments, dispite what the politicians say.


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said by PDXPLT See Profile :

said by aggie2 See Profile :

...a single option that has had almost every trial stopped due to interference issues.
To be fair, almost all those trials were based on technology from a single supplier, one with known interference issues.
I think you're right that all of the shutdowns have involved one vendor, however there's two other vendors that have had several interference complaints, one that has been in the spotlight recently and another one that the FCC has been sitting on for a long time.


envoid

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reply to moonpuppy
I think the FCC is making the market force the providers to lessen the interference. They basically don't want to mess with it, though they probably should.

It kinda makes sense, though. Let the BPL providers come out and see where they go with it. If they can't keep interference emmissions low then people complain and they get fined. FCC has more income while letting the market force the provider to comply.


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said by Transmaster See Profile :

It will still be economics that will kill this trash technology.
I hope so!!!!!

We dont want to lose 1/2 the radio spectrum for this fucka garbage!!!


kamm

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reply to Transmaster
Re: Here we go again

said by Transmaster See Profile :

Well who paid off this clown. If he were a competent engineer instead of a political hack we would not be messing with this crap at all.
Interesting: when he sides with the your (cable) industry, you never mention his political ties to the Mighty Freak Bushie or the full-fledged corruption at FCC....

moonpuppy

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reply to envoid
said by envoid See Profile :

I think the FCC is making the market force the providers to lessen the interference. They basically don't want to mess with it, though they probably should.

It kinda makes sense, though. Let the BPL providers come out and see where they go with it. If they can't keep interference emmissions low then people complain and they get fined. FCC has more income while letting the market force the provider to comply.
Bad idea.

If the power companies think they can interfere a little bit now, they will go farther. Market forces will not help but hurt the situation when people compalin they aren't being served fast enough speeds or enough bandwidth.

Right now, the Motorola system is the ONLY one that doesn't interfere. Others do and they must be shut down.

RadioDoc
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And, every time the FCC has decided to let "market forces" decide anything, it's ended up being an unmitigated disaster.

Just like this will be.
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