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Re: Note to the DCS candidates
Let me correct one Item, while the rules as started did require that nothing was to be taken from the DCExec and leter the DCS, That never prevented any rep from using general questions and statements to solicit information.
Everyone of your reps failed in this matter, including myself
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perryjay
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| But the problem was the reps didn't know how much they could put into that "general question" so that we could know what the hell they were talking about.
With a fight as big as what caused this riff things should have been brought to the attention of the team long before it got this far out of hand or the site management should have stepped in and said enough is enough. |
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FLea973
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| Agree with Perry - Hell by the time we heard anything, the ultimatum had already been made... the lines drawn.. those of us active but not in the cabal were confused and the vast majority of the team was happily crunching away blissfully unaware of what was happening (sadly $10 says 80% of those associated with this team STILL have no idea.. ce la vie)
(Note: "Cabal" was chosen as a literary convenience not as a negative connotation term) |
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HFB1217
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Hell no one knew of the plan to leave or the idea to force the issues except the by their own title the Gang "Group of Ten" and some of them had decided well in advance to perpetrate this action.
They started a big debate and confrontation then they withdrew to a period of complete silence and non-comment.
Then all of a sudden they up and left without warning or so much as a By Your Leave.
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My mistake in the Title sorry perryjay thanks for correcting me.
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perryjay
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| Hank, It was the group of ten. And that title was given to those of us that happened to be active in the TEAM STARFIRE IRC channel at the time by Another rep. I was one of them. I added that as my sig because I thought it was a ludicrous statement at the time. I removed that sig because I saw the troubles brewing but now I'm starting to get second thoughts.
I had no idea that things were as bad as they had become and I was in complete shock when the split happened. There wss noo indication in the IRC channel that things had gotten so far. The Members that left were true to there word to the DCS that they did not reveal anything about what was said there.!! |
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FLea973
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said by HFB1217  :They started a big debate and confrontation then they withdrew to a period of complete silence and non-comment. Then all of a sudden they up and left without warning or so much as a By Your Leave. That is one of the problems - what did they start? what was the confrontation? Because the DCS is secret, They could say there was a guy on the grassy knoll.. but we'd never see what they took to get that opinion.
Even though the lines have been drawn and most of the folks have sorted themselves out, the rest of us (and I speak only for myself but hope others feel the same) want to know what brought us here.
Any thread opened onthe why/how should only be redacted for names but should otherwise lay it all out. |
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HFB1217
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3 edits | The big debate and issues were over a long period of time. They came to a head when they withdrew from the DCS and tried to take the team out also.
The References to the "Group of Ten" became a signature of the members who left the Organization and were in support of the undisclosed issues. They were added to Xaak's, Ron's and m00kie's signatures after the withdrawal as a sign of unity and group identity for their cause or at least it was the impression they made of it. Some others who were to leave and in support of the withdrawal also included it in their postings as well.
Your questions of why and what happened to cause the problems might be better answered if you asked them for a candid reply.
For I and most of us are just as left out of it as you were.
I have a few personal opinions and impression of what transpired but to voice them would be wrong and baseless for I have only a fact or two and nothing concrete to justify posting about most of their causes or issues.
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perryjay
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| Thank you Hank. You've madeup my mind for me.
I'm Sorry Justin, I can't stand any more of this. I hold no grudge against this site but I can't remain and watch a team I supported for close to five years destroy itself. I wish you all the best but I have to say goodbye. |
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