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McLovin
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My own mini-ISP

OK, Here is my epiphany,

Those who know me, know that I've been desperately trying to get our telco to get us off of pair gain and get DSL out here. Which is very feasible considering there are about 400-500 homes in the vicinity, and all are on pair gain.

So, talking to a buddy of mine, who happens to be a tech for this company (I'm not going to mention a company name, but from this point on, said telco company will be referred to as "Smegma", due to my vast hate toward their operations (and their retarded slogan "We're there")), I was talking to him and he said Smegma has T1 offers for about $500/month. So I figure, if a get a T1 from Smegma, have it run to my garage, get all the necessary hardware to run a wireless ISP (similar to Clearwire) out of my house. I seriously have about 500 neighbors, all without broadband (some may have satellite, but who can really call THAT broadband?), would it seem worth the cost?


n1zuk
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I don't think you will be running that many users off a T1.


LBDSL
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reply to McLovin
Thousands of people think of this all the time, You may want to read, and ask for info here: »Wireless Service Providers

A well managed network can have 75-125 users on a single T1
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MrFixitSC
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a full T-1 cicuit is 1.544 Meg up and down... I believe you need line-of-sight to every potential subscriber for it to work as well..


McLovin
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(Thank you Mods for moving this)

The way I understand it is, that every IP that is attached to the T1 gets 1.544Mbps, not the whole line (i.e. 1.5 Mbps Cable/DSL). I figure only 50-100 houses would go for this route, after equipment and stuff, I would have to charge at least $60/month.

Anymore ideas?


rawgerz
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Yeah unless you have lots of time and want to make this into atleast a part time business don't pursue it. wireless is more complex than a simple land line. plus your forgetting that radios are $100-500 depending on what you get, antenna's are about $50 each, LMR cable is not very cheap, etc. You also don't realize that you have to manage this ISP, if just one person uses bittorrent with out any limitations set in place by you they can bring everything to a crawl.
+ you have to be allowed to resell the T1
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McLovin
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I probably won't. I'm just tired of this dial up BS. I'm ready for something better.

SUCKS!


John Galt
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Post your lat/long...
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McLovin
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60N 32' 9.82"
60.53606
6,712,600.0

151W 06' 56.05"
-151.11557
603,400.0


PersComp
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Cayce, SC
In the bay near Anchorage, Alaska?????


McLovin
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said by PersComp See Profile :

In the bay near Anchorage, Alaska?????
Yeah, about 150 miles south of anchorage, in town call Kenai.
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lutful
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Ottawa, ON

reply to PersComp
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If you install a short tower, you can serve many neighbourhoods around you, but it will be best to use the 190ft high ridge (King Salmon, Ridgetop) for the PtP link.

Can you get T1 line (or even business DSL) at Kenai? That may be a good start to your WISP.

Later, you can explore a 2-hop backhaul from Anchorage. You can also use dedicated VSAT as the backhaul, but monthly cost will be higher than T1.


PersComp
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reply to McLovin
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RM doesn't seem to like that area..... It seems to think the land ends right below Skilak lake.
That was why I thought the coordinates were in the middle of the bay. I didn't lay a Mapquest over the topo when I looked after getting the coordinates so it just looked like water. I'll see if I can figure out any other way to get some topo data in RM...
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PetePuma
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said by McLovin See Profile :

The way I understand it is, that every IP that is attached to the T1 gets 1.544Mbps, not the whole line (i.e. 1.5 Mbps Cable/DSL).
Also wanted to clear this up: you are wrong; it is EXACTLY like Cable/DSL. The pipe is 1.544, regardless of the # of IPs. You will be sharing that amongst everyone.

lutful
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said by PersComp See Profile :

RM doesn't seem to like that area..... It seems to think the land ends right below Skilak lake.
RM is fine ... there has been very few Shuttle missions recently to update some gaps in SRTM elevation data.


John Galt
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said by PetePuma See Profile :

You will be sharing that amongst everyone.
You can allocate as much or as little bandwidth as you wish to each user on a per user basis, or create groups (like "basic" and "premium") with different bandwidth characteristics and assign users to those groups.

There are many ways to manage your bandwidth...
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PersComp
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said by PersComp See Profile :

RM doesn't seem to like that area..... It seems to think the land ends right below Skilak lake.
RM is fine ... there has been very few Shuttle missions recently to update some gaps in SRTM elevation data.
Well, let's call someone and get a shuttle in the air! For the sake of wireless propogation, we need data!!!
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F-L-A-T...FLAT!
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PersComp
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That is COOL! Do you get to pick which direction you are looking at too?
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John Galt
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said by PersComp See Profile :

That is COOL! Do you get to pick which direction you are looking at too?
Yes...I do! And elevation.

A bunch of stuff!



The elevation shown in that pic is shown at 8X.
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