inova
join:2006-05-03
Macnutt, SK | reply to superdog
Re: OT
Congrats! Now you are the 'top' dog.  |
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McLovin
Chicka chicka yeah
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join:2005-06-12
Fairbanks, AK
clubs: | reply to McLovin
Re: My own mini-ISP
back in topic plz
any good backhaul providers anyone knows about? Waiting on a call from bandwidth.com |
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lutful
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join:2005-06-16
Ottawa, ON | What about TelAlaska?
Do you plan to do multi-hop backhaul from Anchorage? Your choice is very limited in Kenai at the moment. |
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McLovin
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join:2005-06-12
Fairbanks, AK
clubs: | GCI is supposed to call today with info and pricing. ACS wants to lay fiber and do a 10Mbps Ethernet backbone (100Mbps burst) for $1800 a month.
Don't want to take that option really though. Thoughts? |
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Semaphore
Premium
join:2003-11-18
Arnprior On.
| FAR more B/W then you're going to need. Keep costs down and scale up later... you're going to need cash flow for all the OTHER things that are going to cost ya  . They may consider a 1Mbps VLAN with 10Mbps burst for less ? You seriously don't need more than a couple Mbps to service 50-100 users. |
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milbrath
join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN
| I've voiced about a T1 being more than enough for the beggining. That being said, if you feel that the system will grow quick enough a 10mb dedicated connection for 1800 is not that bad, cheaper than what we are forced to pay for (2) T1's. So it comes down to numbers, can you grow quick enough to start out at that point.
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jjgb10
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join:2004-11-24
Kasson, MN
clubs:
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 ·Qwest.net
·ViaTalk
| reply to McLovin
$1,800 is a good price for 10mb internet. What do they want to charge for installation? Also, like it has been said, try to ask them for a lower speed to try and cut that price in half possibly.
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McLovin
Chicka chicka yeah
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Fairbanks, AK
clubs: | reply to McLovin
Thats minus the fee they are going to ask for to actually lay and bury the fiber to my house. |
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John Galt
Forward, March
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Happy Camp | Don't have it installed to your house. Get an "office" very close to where the fiber would originate in your area. Feed the bandwidth wireless on backhaul lins to your distribution points...
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McLovin
Chicka chicka yeah
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join:2005-06-12
Fairbanks, AK
clubs: | reply to McLovin
They won't do that because fiber has to be buried 10 feet underground and wire must come up next to a house by alaskan standards. |
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jjgb10
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Kasson, MN
clubs:
·VOIPo
·Qwest.net
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| reply to John Galt
That's just about what I was gonna say. Like John said, the closer you are to the fiber, the cheaper it's going to be for installation. You might have a hard time trying to find where the fiber comes into town. Once you do, find a building or something as close to the fiber as possible so installation is cheap.
From there, you can use wireless ptp to get the bandwidth where you need it to go.
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jjgb10
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join:2004-11-24
Kasson, MN
clubs:
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Are you saying they will only install the fiber in a residential area? Where did you get that the fiber needs to be buried 10 feet? Do you know how expensive that would be.
Whoever told you this does not know what they're talking about.
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McLovin
Chicka chicka yeah
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join:2005-06-12
Fairbanks, AK
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·PTIAlaska.NET
| said by jjgb10  :Are you saying they will only install the fiber in a residential area? Where did you get that the fiber needs to be buried 10 feet? Do you know how expensive that would be. Whoever told you this does not know what they're talking about. No, I do know what I'm talking about. In Alaska, because of the extreme cold temps in the winter, cables for anything must be buried 10 feet underground at any point except for extraction. Otherwise, they get to cold and they corrode, and crack, especially fiber.
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Sweet Witch
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join:2003-07-15
Gallifrey | Below the frost level, right? |
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LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
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said by McLovin :No, I do know what I'm talking about. In Alaska, because of the extreme cold temps in the winter, cables for anything must be buried 10 feet underground at any point except for extraction. Otherwise, they get to cold and they corrode, and crack, especially fiber. They did bury the first FOTS line here but since have run thousands of miles of arial fibre across Canada and I can attest to the cold here. |
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA | reply to McLovin
Well, the oil pipe line didn't fair so well above ground |
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McLovin
Chicka chicka yeah
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join:2005-06-12
Fairbanks, AK
clubs: | said by Sweet Witch :Below the frost level, right? Correct... |
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WiFiguru
Formerly jnethostman
Premium
join:2005-06-21
Lodi, CA
| reply to McLovin
Might want to look into getting a DS3 line(45mbit).
I have seen the prices as low as $2500. You might also want to contact CogentCO (»cogentco.com)and see if they can hook you up with 100mbit(which is about $1500/month)
-Jarrett |
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lutful
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join:2005-06-16
Ottawa, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Until the Kodiak Kenai Cable Company connects their landing point (at Kenai) to the KKFL fiber sometime in Dec/06, the options seem very limited for this guy.
»www.home.alcatel.com/vpr/vpr.nsf···072006uk
I am afraid that some companies offering him DS3 or 10/100Mbps fiber may not have the big WAN pipe to back it up.
IMHO [desperate4DSL] could contact Kodiak Kenai directly and organize a shared tower right at the landing point so WISPs could bypass the T1/T3 or fiber local loop charges. |
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