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floydb_1982

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 My hard drive's fast and big enough for Windows Vista???

My computer use's three hard drive's;

1) Maxtor DimondMax 16
Formatted capacity: 120 GB
Average seek time: ¡Ü12.6 ms
Rotational speed: 5,400 RPM
2MB cache buffer

2) Wester Digital Caviar® SE
Rotational Speed 7,200 RPM (nominal)
Buffer Size 8 MB
Average Latency 4.20 ms (nominal)
Contact Start/Stop Cycles 50,000 minimum
Read Seek Time 8.9 ms
Write Seek Time 10.9 ms (average)
Track-To-Track Seek Time 2.0 ms (average)
Full Stroke Seek 21.0 ms (average)
Cylinders 16,383
Sectors Per Track 63
Formatted Capacity 200,049 MB
Capacity 200 GB
Interface EIDE 100 MB/s
User Sectors Per Drive 390,721,968

3) External USB 2.0 Fantom
Capacity 300 GB
Rotational Speed 5,400 RPM
Interface USB 60 MB/s

Are my hard drives Windows Vista ready???


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Dude what's with the spam? Put everything in one thread like the rest of us do.

As to your question, yes they are fine. 5400 RPM is a little slow, but they will still work.


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maybe an 7200RPM or higher would be fine

spiralspirit

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dude...HDD time will affect very little except perhaps start up time. File access times should be approximately the same.


demux

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Have you ever tested a 5400RPM drive next to a 7200RPM? The difference is like night and day. Access times, sustained transfer, burst speed, boot time... etc. In every aspect the 7200 is NOTICABLY faster.

floydb_1982

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Before 7,200 RPM 5,400 RPM was king of the road


signmeuptoo
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floyd, don't get into something you don't want to get in an argument about if your not that knowledgable. RPM is part of what makes a HD fast, but there are numerous factors.

There are 15,000RPM drives out there, heck, there might even be 20K RPM drives by now for all I know, but they are probably just SCSI drives.
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floydb_1982

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  So your saying that 5,400 RPM is just as fast as 7,200 RPM???


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said by floydb_1982 See Profile :

So your saying that 5,400 RPM is just as fast as 7,200 RPM???
It depends on what you're using it for. For short reads and writes that isn't any real difference. Where you'll see the difference is in long reads and writes. After you're booted odds are you won't notice the difference. Most laptop drives are 5,400 RPM.
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floydb_1982

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I'm turning my 300 GB USB hard drive in to one huge Windows Media Audio library database


CylonRed
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reply to floydb_1982
All of them are big enough - Vista does not care about the speed of the drive - that is up to you...


brut7

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reply to floydb_1982
Speed is everything. My computer runs fine under both xp and vista (currently 5472) but I know how to tweak vista. I use two 7200 rpm sata 3.0 drives in RAID 0. Used to use two 10000 rpm raptors but needed more space and cost was a factor.

Hard drive speed is the number one factor. Of course a duel cpu setup, shotgun ram and duel vid cards help a bit.

I overclock too but shoot for stability and know what I'm doing.

Horsepower is; what it is.

Slow computers are slow, fast computers are fast.

I want my appz and browsers to spring into life the moment I click on an icon.

Fast hardware works great on an OS.

Best Wishes

PS Some will not agree with my viewpoint but it really doesn't cost much to stay close to the leading edge.

If your spending time on a computer, make the most of it.


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reply to floydb_1982
To answer most questions -

If you are upgrading to Vista - if you didn't purchase your computer within the last year or 2, I would consider an upgrade.

Its a serious resource hog, especially if you want to use their "best" new UI. For the most part, even a 5 year old CPU will probably be fine, but a system of that vintage is unlikely to have enough memory, or a fast enough video card.
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Octavean
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reply to floydb_1982
Vista Premium Ready PC OS install HDDs must be 40GB or larger (15 GB free space) as a minimum requirement.

Perhaps you should run the “ Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta “ and perhaps do a little research over at the official Vista Home page. No offence intended but the info is just there for the taking,….no need to ask.


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No, I am saying until you can speak with full authority on things, just be careful making blanket statements.
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Luko
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Vista has been installed on a 20gig drive. Least the Beta 2 public release fit.


Octavean
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I don’t doubt that, that’s why for specificity I stated “Vista Premium” with respect to 40GB or larger (15 GB free space) according to MS.

Vista core or Vista Capable differs somewhat from Vista Premium.


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said by Octavean See Profile :

I don’t doubt that, that’s why for specificity I stated “Vista Premium” with respect to 40GB or larger (15 GB free space) according to MS.
That's probably based on MS's assumption that you will have your page file and your temp dirs in your system drive - that's the standard setup and few people change that -.

Now, I have not installed Vista, but since the times of W2K and later on XP, I always move the page file to the first partition of a fast second HD. Temp dirs also go there. I hope - actually, I guess - you can do that in Vista too.

I really don't think having 15 GB or 5 GB free on your system partition will make any difference in performance.

Edit: According to the MS Vista advisor, you'll probably get a higher score with a 5400 RPM Maxtor with 50 GB free space than with a 10.000 RPM Raptor with 5 GB free space. That sounds strange to me.

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said by Martinus :
That's probably based on MS's assumption that you will have your page file and your temp dirs in your system drive - that's the standard setup and few people change that -.
I was under the impression that the 40GB/15GB free reference was for installation purposes not necessarily a daily operating environment but I wouldn’t bet the farm on that. Today I wouldn’t typically run a 40GB HDD instead opting for 120GB and above.

said by Martinus :
Now, I have not installed Vista, but since the times of W2K and later on XP, I always move the page file to the first partition of a fast second HD. Temp dirs also go there. I hope - actually, I guess - you can do that in Vista too.
I have run windows XP in such a configuration before but haven’t tried it in Vista.

said by Martinus :
I really don't think having 15 GB or 5 GB free on your system partition will make any difference in performance.
I wouldn’t bother making much of a distinction between 15GB and 5GB free space, I’m certain that I wouldn’t want to run with either if it could be helped.


Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA

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said by floydb_1982 See Profile :

1) Maxtor DimondMax 16
Formatted capacity: 120 GB
Average seek time: ¡Ü12.6 ms
Rotational speed: 5,400 RPM
2MB cache buffer

I have that exact same Maxtor you list - and its dog slow for speed. Its one of the very first 120GB drives, and performs more like an old 40GB

Go pick up a perpendicular SATA 320GB for $90 @ newegg and the speed difference will be amazing.
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