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signmeuptoo
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Re: My hard drive's fast and big enough for Windows Vista???

floyd, don't get into something you don't want to get in an argument about if your not that knowledgable. RPM is part of what makes a HD fast, but there are numerous factors.

There are 15,000RPM drives out there, heck, there might even be 20K RPM drives by now for all I know, but they are probably just SCSI drives.
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  So your saying that 5,400 RPM is just as fast as 7,200 RPM???


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said by floydb_1982 See Profile :

So your saying that 5,400 RPM is just as fast as 7,200 RPM???
It depends on what you're using it for. For short reads and writes that isn't any real difference. Where you'll see the difference is in long reads and writes. After you're booted odds are you won't notice the difference. Most laptop drives are 5,400 RPM.
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No, I am saying until you can speak with full authority on things, just be careful making blanket statements.
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Vista has been installed on a 20gig drive. Least the Beta 2 public release fit.


Octavean
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I don’t doubt that, that’s why for specificity I stated “Vista Premium” with respect to 40GB or larger (15 GB free space) according to MS.

Vista core or Vista Capable differs somewhat from Vista Premium.


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said by Octavean See Profile :

I don’t doubt that, that’s why for specificity I stated “Vista Premium” with respect to 40GB or larger (15 GB free space) according to MS.
That's probably based on MS's assumption that you will have your page file and your temp dirs in your system drive - that's the standard setup and few people change that -.

Now, I have not installed Vista, but since the times of W2K and later on XP, I always move the page file to the first partition of a fast second HD. Temp dirs also go there. I hope - actually, I guess - you can do that in Vista too.

I really don't think having 15 GB or 5 GB free on your system partition will make any difference in performance.

Edit: According to the MS Vista advisor, you'll probably get a higher score with a 5400 RPM Maxtor with 50 GB free space than with a 10.000 RPM Raptor with 5 GB free space. That sounds strange to me.

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said by Martinus :
That's probably based on MS's assumption that you will have your page file and your temp dirs in your system drive - that's the standard setup and few people change that -.
I was under the impression that the 40GB/15GB free reference was for installation purposes not necessarily a daily operating environment but I wouldn’t bet the farm on that. Today I wouldn’t typically run a 40GB HDD instead opting for 120GB and above.

said by Martinus :
Now, I have not installed Vista, but since the times of W2K and later on XP, I always move the page file to the first partition of a fast second HD. Temp dirs also go there. I hope - actually, I guess - you can do that in Vista too.
I have run windows XP in such a configuration before but haven’t tried it in Vista.

said by Martinus :
I really don't think having 15 GB or 5 GB free on your system partition will make any difference in performance.
I wouldn’t bother making much of a distinction between 15GB and 5GB free space, I’m certain that I wouldn’t want to run with either if it could be helped.


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said by floydb_1982 See Profile :

So your saying that 5,400 RPM is just as fast as 7,200 RPM???
It depends on what you're using it for. For short reads and writes that isn't any real difference. Where you'll see the difference is in long reads and writes. After you're booted odds are you won't notice the difference. Most laptop drives are 5,400 RPM.
Ive had both in fact still do have both. You can tell the difference any time your computer is making use of the swap file. A large part of windows on my comp for example runs in virt mem aka swap file. But many programs will also make use of the swap even when you have more than enough ram to not use swap file. Then theres the fact that as you can tell many people are in to digital imaging (just need to look at the forum here for digital imaging). 3d art is another place where hd speed will help. DVD encoding ripping cds and mp3 encoding etc.

I suppose if all your doing is web and email chat etc then no you will not notice. But that is only a few % of the population.
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elios

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Martinus
Vista asumes you have only one HDD with one partaion as most lower end PCs have
Vistas adviser and system test stuff is flawed
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