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SipSizzurp
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Indulge My Stupidity

Ok, forgive me for not reading more. I go to NewEgg and find 5 Conroe CPUs and all state "LGA 775 socket T". Then I click on Intel Mother Boards and find 159 boards in the "LGA 775 socket T" category. Are they referring to the same "LGA Socket T" spec ? Are there different "LGA 775 socket tees" or will all 159 of these boards generally run a Conroe CPU ? I've been AMD all my life and am not sure if there is some double-speak going on here or not.
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mikehd
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Always check the mobo mfg website for cpu compatibility.
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SipSizzurp
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said by mikehd:

Always check the mobo mfg website for cpu compatibility.
Strike one, but a helluva strike it is.
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asdfdfdf

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reply to SipSizzurp
The socket is the same but most of those boards will NOT run a conroe chip. The conroe voltage regulation requirements are different.


mikehd
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reply to SipSizzurp

said by SipSizzurp:

said by mikehd:

Always check the mobo mfg website for cpu compatibility.
Strike one, but a helluva strike it is.
?? What does this mean??

Sincerely, don't trust the reseller for cpu/mobo compatibility. If you choose wrong, newegg and every other reseller will eat your restocking fee.
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SipSizzurp
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It means that the advice you gave is very good, but did not answer my question specifically. I thought that there were only 4 or 5 boards that would run a conroe, but am confuzed at finding 159 "LGA 775 Socket T" boards for sale, and the Conroe states that it is an "LGA socket T 775 ". Hence my confusion and subsequent query for clarification as to Intel's socket nomenclature. Did they not count on some possible AMD converts that might find the same name meaning 2 different things a bit confusing, and subsequently, some drunk dude in Texas wanting to ask what is going on ? I would indeed do plenty of reading up on the MoBo's home page before buying. I was looking for a more general answer, but your answer is still well appreciated. That is what I meant by "Strike One".
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SipSizzurp
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A better question perhaps is, "Am I the only one that iz trippin' ?" or could Intel have been a bit more creative with their terminology ?
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ccallana
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said by asdfdfdf :

The socket is the same but most of those boards will NOT run a conroe chip. The conroe voltage regulation requirements are different.
This is true. The pin outs may be the same - but different chips require different voltage regulation. So even though a board may have the LGA775, it may not take Conroe (Core 2 Duo)
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SipSizzurp
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Thanks. I am at peace. I won't ask any more stupid questions like "What tha hell were they thinking !!!!!!!!?????"
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signmeuptoo
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reply to SipSizzurp
SipSizurp: What you should do is find out which ***CHIPSETS*** of motherboards support a given CPU, then, while looking at motherboards, seek out the chipset that is appropriate. IIRC, there are only, what, 2 of them so far I think, both Intel, but I myself am trying to get up to speed on this.

Seems pretty crazy they didn't change the pinout, a LOT of people are going to end up frying stuff because of this, I bet.
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idlewillkill
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reply to SipSizzurp
IIRC, Intel's 955 and 975 chipsets support Conroe.



signmeuptoo
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reply to SipSizzurp
OK, google gave me a little bit here:

»www.xbitlabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10707

»www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx···le=32915

And a list of Conroe compatible motherboards, for the OP (and everyone):

»www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/331250/?s=

It will be nice if and when a site lists available chipsets in the coming months, and describes their differences/features.

Edit:

And what appears to give even better information:

»www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho···t=101408
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ccallana
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said by signmeuptoo:

Seems pretty crazy they didn't change the pinout, a LOT of people are going to end up frying stuff because of this, I bet.
Actually, this is pretty common - keeping same sockets thru generations of procs. Happened in the Slot processors, as well as sockets... If a customer blows something up, can't blame Intel if the customer didn't read the directions
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tao
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reply to SipSizzurp
Maybe you are right about the use of terminology, but you cannot hold Intel responsible for what NewEgg, or MB manufacturers say about products Intel does not make.

mikehd nailed it, but perhaps did not inform you that corporations can, and have, lied about the usefulness of their products.



asdfdfdf

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reply to SipSizzurp
It's not a stupid question.
Are you wanting to make a purchase? If so, tell us what you need the system for and budget and we'll try to give specific recommendations.



Octavean
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reply to SipSizzurp
FWIW,..

On newegg, instead of searching by socket “Socket T (LGA 775)” you can look at the following links which were just under the “Socket T (LGA 775)” you circled in red in the second pic you posted:

Intel Core 2 Extreme/Core 2 Duo/Pentium D/Celeron (4)

Intel Core 2 Extreme/Core 2 Duo/Pentium EE/Pentium (8)

Each board listed there should state if it supports Core 2 Duo.


SipSizzurp
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reply to asdfdfdf

said by asdfdfdf :

Are you wanting to make a purchase?
Not just immediately. I build systems on a regular basis and am looking to develop my info a bit more. I was pretty sudzed up when I posted originally, but it is a question that has been bothering me. I am very tempted to take advantage of the new AMD pricing. I know what those chips will do, but each time I reach for the credit card, the 65 Nm spek and great overclock potential of the Conroe has kept me from doing it. Thanks for all of the replies, and for answering my question so well. I will certainly post back with some more questions before I order anything. I think that I would be quite pre-disposed to trying an Intel MoBo for my first Conroe build.
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tahoejeff
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reply to SipSizzurp
this really surprises me too. i always thought if the socket matched, you were good to go.
i've never built an Intel system. are there differences on AMD too? will my backordered Asus socket 939 board work with my Athlon 64 3500+, for example?
i'm not sure of the Asus model, i'm at work now. i think it's a8n sli deluxe, or something like that. this does worry me. all along, i've been trusting the socket number when shopping.
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asdfdfdf

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reply to SipSizzurp
"will my backordered Asus socket 939 board work with my Athlon 64 3500+, for example?
i'm not sure of the Asus model, i'm at work now. i think it's a8n sli deluxe, "

Yes it will work, nothing to worry about.



Vamp
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reply to SipSizzurp
There are some boards that came out well before Conroe (Core 2 Duo) that actually do work with Core 2, or work after a firmware upgrade.

But it is my opinion and recommendation to not get such boards, but instead look at boards that came out AFTER Core 2 Duo was released (there isn't a whole lot yet, but there will be more available soon), or atleast get ones that verify "Core 2 compatible" out-of-the-box.


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