hayc59
VoodooChild
Premium
join:2001-02-26
David R.I.P.
|  One Week Only!-Special Offer BOClean Software
 
Nancy McAleavey and Company are offering a very special deal!
Until August 25th[/color], there's a $15.00 discount on BOClean!
Perfect for back to school security for that new laptop!
 Download: BOClean
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Dustyn
Premium
join:2003-02-26
Ontario, CAN
| Purchased mine yesterday along with SAS Pro!
Both offer an unlimited update/upgrade service.
However SAS requires an additional $9.99 for the lifetime key. (got it)
BOClean of course offers free upgrades for life by default unlike SAS.
Well worth the investment if you ask me! 
Thanks for spreading the word! 
Offer won't last too much longer.
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bpm3k
join:2004-08-15
Simi Valley, CA | reply to hayc59
How much is it? |
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muf
Captain of the axe
Premium
join:2003-01-04
uk | reply to hayc59
Normally it's $39.95 but this offer makes it $24.95.
muf
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Allnew
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-01
Denmark- EU.
clubs: | reply to hayc59
Hmm perhaps its time to go BOClean |
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jaykaykay
4 Ever Young
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-13
Scottsdale, AZ | reply to hayc59
It's a no thought option. Go for it anyone who hasn't. The program is special as is the support that goes with it when one has the program. |
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JTM1051
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-08
Moorpark, CA
| reply to hayc59
Thanks for the post.
Due all the users' comments on BOClean and »[poll] Anti-Trojan Poll 2006 was always interested in trying -- but did not want to pay $40 to try it. Yes I know there is a 30-day money back guarantee, however IMHO that's not a long enough trial period for a app like BOClean that basically works covertly in the background (i.e., no scanner) and does not doing anything until you get a some type of trojan/malware that tries to execute its code.
The combination of the price ($24.95 after $15 discount), for home users can be installed on four PCs within the purchaser's household and no yearly additional costs for updates was a good enough deal I decided to for it.
BTW know of any Anti-Trojan review/test sites like AV-Comparatives for AVs?
The only one I've been able to find is Anti-trojan Software Reviews, which reviews are quite old.
Find it interesting the various major PC mags regularly do AntiSpyware, AntiVirus and Firewall reviews/tests comparisons but have not seen for Anti-Trojans. Be nice to see an in depth reviews/tests comparisons on the current versions of BOClean, Ewdio, A-Squared, Trojan Hunter, etc. |
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hayc59
VoodooChild
Premium
join:2001-02-26
David R.I.P. | reply to hayc59
Your welcome folks!
Like jaykaykay says is a great offer
to good to pass  |
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Dustyn
Premium
join:2003-02-26
Ontario, CAN | reply to JTM1051
»[M-POLL] Pay 4 AntiSpyware Products?
Here's a very recent one too.
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JTM1051
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-08
Moorpark, CA
| Thanks, I saw that "poll", but I'm looking for official/reputable independent sites that does in depth comparative tests of Anti-Trojan progs like AV-Comparatives, Virus Bulletin, virus.gr, etc. for Antivirus progs.
Though some of the Anti-Trojan progs (e.g., A-Squared, Ewido, etc.,) have expanded into trying becoming an "all-in-one" Anti-Trojan, Anti-Worm, Anti-Malware, Anti-Keylogger and Anti-Spyware.
Do not expect a true Anti-Trojan prog (e.g., TrojanHunter) to be a good at Anti-Spyware.
A good example is Ewido 4.0 Anti-Spyware (formally Ewido 3.5 Anti-Malware.)
Ewido's popularity has been for being a Anti-Trojan, Anti-Worm, Anti-Malware and Anti-Keylogger prog.
Based on a test a couple of Anti-Spyware tests:
»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,19···K0000992
»security.ithub.com/article/ewido···3_1.aspx
They may have change the name to Ewido 4.0 Anti-Spyware but it's not a good choice as an Anti-Spyware prog. |
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John2g
Qui Tacet Consentit
Premium
join:2001-08-10
England
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That review is totally worthless. Not only is it old, but the testing is done on just 16 trojan samples.
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DaHen
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Brockton, MA | reply to hayc59
Thanks hayc59,
Although I already have BOClean. I purchased another one and put it on my daughter-in-laws machine.
But what a bargain. |
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bluepoint
join:2001-03-24 | reply to hayc59
How much RAM does BOClean uses when it runs in the background? |
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John2g
Qui Tacet Consentit
Premium
join:2001-08-10
England | About 8700K in total (on my comnputer) |
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MarkAW
Barry White or lil bratt
Premium
join:2001-08-27
Canada | About 2540K on my computer ( Windows Xp SP2, intel P4 3.0 gig, 1024 gig ram ). |
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bluepoint
join:2001-03-24 | Ok thanks to both of you. |
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BlackHawk1
join:2006-07-02
Loyalhanna, PA
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The reason you don't see them is because they are not really needed these days. Take Trojan Defense Suite for example... discontinued because todays anti-virus handles this area better. At one time anti-trojan apps were needed because anti-virus was weak in the trojan detection department, but not these days. In my experience and I have tried a ton of them... todays anti-trojan apps are weak... not detecting a lot of stuff period or taking a very long time to get detection added, if ever. I will not name names, but will say that they are ALL behind the game. They just don't have the resourses. I have discontinued using them... makes no sense to me to have something taking up space, memory, time and watching anti-virus detecting things weeks ahead of them. Get a good antivirus like Kaspersky and see for yourself.
said by JTM1051  :Find it interesting the various major PC mags regularly do AntiSpyware, AntiVirus and Firewall reviews/tests comparisons but have not seen for Anti-Trojans. Be nice to see an in depth reviews/tests comparisons on the current versions of BOClean, Ewdio, A-Squared, Trojan Hunter, etc. |
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SpannerITWks
Premium
join:2005-04-22
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Quote " The reason you don't see them is because they are not really needed these days. Take Trojan Defense Suite for example... discontinued because todays anti-virus handles this area better. "
Actually the Real reasons why TDS3 was discontinued, and TDS4 never materialised are these. Wayne etc were overworked with both updating existing products, designing new ones + Freeware, and on top of this providing the constant daily Def updates to TDS3. There may have been other things involved too, but we're not party to those !
See this VERY long thread - I do not think all has been said regarding TDS-3 - »www.wilderssecurity.com/showthre···&t=90449
I do agree though at one time most AV's mainly only consentrated on Viruses. Now quite a number of them also detect other things too. Still a dedicated high quality Rootkit/Trojan/Bot/ etc etc prevention + detection product, is a Very worthwhile addition to a leyered defense. As is well known by now, no one App can or will always prevent/detect everything, and these days with an ever increasing daily amount of nasties being released it makes perfect sense to do this. Also the nasties out there are seemingly getting more and more sophisticated as every week goes by. So relying on just one product is risky !
I don't know which products you're talking about when you said this " anti-virus detecting things weeks ahead of them " but it's Definately NOT the AT one i use, that's 4 sure !
And yes KAV is a very good AV, as are a few others some Free, but just check out Jottis etc and see how Often how many AV's miss things, and NOT just the ones you might think !
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BlackHawk1
join:2006-07-02
Loyalhanna, PA
| Spanner,
With all due respect (and I truly mean that) what I said was one of the REAL reasons it was discontinued... You must not have seen the particular DiamondCS announcement that I saw (posted 07-27-05) as to why it was discontinued. I saved it. I would love to post the whole thing, but it is long. So, here are 2 quotes from it...
"Existing anti-virus scanners improved anti-trojan performance. For a long time anti-virus scanners lagged behind when it came to trojans, but today the leading anti-virus scanners are generally doing as well as, if not better than the anti-trojan scanners, and in many ways even have the upper hand over existing anti-trojan scanners (for example some anti-virus scanners have comprehensive unpacking engines). TDS was initially created because of the poor performance of anti-virus scanners when it came to trojans (in particular remote access trojans), but as they've since 'caught up' the need for anti-trojan scanners is declining."
"today the leading anti-virus scanners are generally doing as well as, if not better than the anti-trojan scanners, and in many ways even have the upper hand over existing anti-trojan scanners (for example some anti-virus scanners have comprehensive unpacking engines)."
I think that speaks for itself and backs up what I said. I admire DiamondCS honesty here and their statements reflect my own experience. I stand by my feelings. Chances are very good that I've used the AT you think so much of. Like I said previously... I've tried a ton of them and not 1 these days stacks up to a good anti-virus program like Kaspersky for example. If you think so much of your AT post the name and if I have used it or not I will be honest and tell you.
You mentioned Jotti... again with all due respect... you of all people should know it is a bad example for many reasons. Some AV's there are older versions/engines. There are many reasons why you can't reply on sites like Jotti, Virus Total, etc. Again my own experience backs that up... Last December I submitted a 0day Trojan to a slew of anti-virus companies and within 1 hour to a few hours Kaspersky, Dr. Web, McAfee, BitDefender, Sophos and F-Secure confirmed it was new variant and added detection for it. I was impressed with their fast response. Many AV on Jotti and Virus Total didn't pick up on it for days to a week+. I sent that same trojan to several AT companies and it took ALL of them over a week to add detection. It took one company 2 weeks to get it right. The first time their added detection was no good... they had to go back to the drawing board and fix it. They eventually got it right. These AT compaines just don't have the time, money, or resources (as DiamondCS has stated) to be as good as current anti-virus programs. One well known AT I tried was simply appauling IME... not finding trojans that were several MONTHS old. It was sad.
I feel that using AT's these days are giving people a false sense of *top notch* security. But, if it gives a person that type of peace of mind then by all means use them. My experience with them has me feeling otherwise. Heck, I have a lifetime subscription to one of them and I won't even use it anymore. |
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BlackHawk1
join:2006-07-02
Loyalhanna, PA
1 edit | Spanner,
That 0day trojan I told you about... The one I found in December 2005? Well I just uploaded it to the online muti-engine scanners and one site has AVAST saying it is clean. Another site has AVAST flagging it as the trojan it is. Another site has ClamAV, eTrust-Vet and Ikarus all reporting it as clean. Jotti has NOD32 and Clam saying it is clean.
Now do you see why those sites are not reliable?
Did you notice how old some of those versions are? Just one example... BitDefender version 7.1! LOL! BitDefender is on version 9 and about to release version 10. Like Jotti says...
"You're free to (mis)interpret these automated, flawed statistics at your own discretion." |
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