braynes
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Waterville, ME
 ·Great Works Internet
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·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Charging the wrong people "It was obvious when Verizon started doing Simulated Dry Loop DSL, that they had costed it wrong. It should be in the $12 range, not $5 higher than standard DSL with phone, due to the line cost.
The answer no one is getting from them, is why not raise the Dry DSL price to where it belongs, rather than spread it across all DSL users. The people with POTS lines + DSL are already paying for a phone line. Why penalize them with costs associated with DSL for people with no phone service?"
I think this is what there are trying to imply, the dry lines cost more so they need to charge, now two answers increase the dry dsl or charge everyone. The fact is it is an increase,the cable goes to the subscriber anyway no extra cost,no need to hook up dial tone ,so no equipment and no labor.
This is an increase pure and simple.
They have no Price increase to them just want more bucks for bonuses.
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 JohnA
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Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: Charging the wrong people said by braynes  : The fact is it is an increase,the cable goes to the subscriber anyway no extra cost,no need to hook up dial tone ,so no equipment and no labor. Truth is there is a dial tone on the line and a number associated with it, along with proportional maintenance and support costs. Simulated dry loop is not a lot different from a POTS line, you just can't dial out on it. | |
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Pathfinder
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Mount Vernon, NY
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1 edit | Re: Charging the wrong people DSL is not a translation change. It is a physical x-connection from the split bank to the cable pair.
BTW I retired from Verizon after 36 years in Installtion & Repair.
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Pathfinder
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Mount Vernon, NY
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| Re: Charging the wrong people DSL is provided at the split bank (DSLAM) not in the switch. At least here in New York. In most cases the addition of DSL to an existing line requires 4 xconn sometimes on 3 different floors of the CO.
From the OE to a tie, from the tie to the in on the split bank, from the out split bank to a tie and from the tie to the CP.
Naked DSL only requires the last 2.
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| Re: Charging the wrong people The additional cost of Dry-Loop DSL is due to the cost involved in maintaining the circuit and cable pair. In the case of a piggy back this cost is built in to the cost of the POTS line.
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| Re: Charging the wrong people said by braynes :"The additional cost of Dry-Loop DSL is due to the cost involved in maintaining the circuit and cable pair" Then you feel that a cable pair going to the sub with no service DT or DSL is more profitable then using it for a dsl dry pair and charging the sub for dsl service? And I still do not see how or why you think there is an extra cost,the equipment is there the outside plant is there, leaving it dark make no money, this is just greed.At the most x-wire(the frame crew has time) Bruce No a pair with no service makes no money. But perhaps you miis the part where the DSL is a separate entity from POTS.
POTS pays for cable Maitenance. Ove 1000 people in Manhattan alone. I realize that Verizon profits all go to the same place but each entity is budgeted and charged separately. Have you ever heard of Cable Maintenance? or cable failures?
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braynes
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1 edit | Also the tie pairs should be in,perhaps ill assigned but there,if a lot of work needed to be done then some one drop the ball, either in plant or LA. O yea you ever hear of Dac or dexes?
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| Re: Charging the wrong people said by braynes :By the way I retired from AT&T after 28 years in engendering; most of witch was isdn and DSL. Bruce :O
What did you cause to happen or occur at AT&T?
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