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Pathfinder
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Re: Charging the wrong people

DSL is provided at the split bank (DSLAM) not in the switch. At least here in New York. In most cases the addition of DSL to an existing line requires 4 xconn sometimes on 3 different floors of the CO.
From the OE to a tie, from the tie to the in on the split bank, from the out split bank to a tie and from the tie to the CP.
Naked DSL only requires the last 2.
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braynes
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O.K. If the cable pair goes to the sub. and is wired to a line unit and there is no service on the line.
If I get DT there may be some x-wire to run, if I get dsl they may or may not be x-wire(there are many situation)either way the work is no more or less(are you talking rt or cdo's and no co's?).
Now sense it is cabled to the sub. and if no service is in use then no revenue,if DT the money,if dsl money,so why would they Not want to turn on a cable pair to sell dsl? How can this possible cost any more?
Bruce


braynes
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Also the tie pairs should be in,perhaps ill assigned but there,if a lot of work needed to be done then some one drop the ball, either in plant or LA. O yea you ever hear of Dac or dexes?
Bruce


Pathfinder
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The additional cost of Dry-Loop DSL is due to the cost involved in maintaining the circuit and cable pair. In the case of a piggy back this cost is built in to the cost of the POTS line.
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braynes
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"The additional cost of Dry-Loop DSL is due to the cost involved in maintaining the circuit and cable pair"

Then you feel that a cable pair going to the sub with no service DT or DSL is more profitable then using it for a dsl dry pair and charging the sub for dsl service? And I still do not see how or why you think there is an extra cost,the equipment is there the outside plant is there, leaving it dark make no money, this is just greed.At the most x-wire(the frame crew has time)

Bruce


Pathfinder
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said by braynes See Profile :

"The additional cost of Dry-Loop DSL is due to the cost involved in maintaining the circuit and cable pair"

Then you feel that a cable pair going to the sub with no service DT or DSL is more profitable then using it for a dsl dry pair and charging the sub for dsl service? And I still do not see how or why you think there is an extra cost,the equipment is there the outside plant is there, leaving it dark make no money, this is just greed.At the most x-wire(the frame crew has time)

Bruce
No a pair with no service makes no money. But perhaps you miis the part where the DSL is a separate entity from POTS.
POTS pays for cable Maitenance. Ove 1000 people in Manhattan alone. I realize that Verizon profits all go to the same place but each entity is budgeted and charged separately. Have you ever heard of Cable Maintenance? or cable failures?
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