TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | reply to triggz
Re: Comcast is spying on me!
Go buy the Dark Crystal you cheap fool that is one fine damn movie. |
|
hoyleysox
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA
 ·Cox HSI
·Time Warner Cable
| reply to triggz
You could try telling them that it wasn't being shared from your computer. Tell them that you just found out that you never set a password on your wireless router and someone was freeloading your connection. Thank them for helping you figure out why your connection seemed so slow.
Or you could try saying that you got a computer virus and some hacker turned your computer into a filesharing zombie. |
|
Schwinn555
join:2004-10-26
Portland, OR
| reply to triggz
Yes it is clear what has happened. Comcast has agreed to let people have access to your files so they can see what your downloading and looking at. There are still ISP's that refuse to share private info Comcast isn't one of them. Just one of a long list of reasons not to use Comcast. |
|
JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | reply to triggz
If this was a case of "sharing" your "copy" of this movie for your own use, you could have easily restricted remote access for yourself only. Guess that wasn't the plan, eh?  |
|
maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to triggz
said by triggz  :I just got this in my email. I think its completely DISGUSTING that they are spying on me and think they have the right to assume I don't have this DVD in my personal collection already. Threatening to terminate me over a 20 year old muppet movie? PATHETIC. Infringement Source: BitTorrent Initial Infringement Timestamp: 23 Aug 2006 06:16:15 GMT Recent Infringment Timestamp: 23 Aug 2006 06:16:15 GMT Infringer Username: Infringing Filename: The Dark Crystal DVDRip XVID/The.Dark.Crystal.DVDRip.XVID.avi You are using BitTorrent. No matter if you a 100 legally purchased DVD's of the movie in question, you are still not allowed to distribute parts of it.
And Bittorrent uploads while you download. No matter how you look at it, and how stupid YOU may think it is....
You broke the law. Period. Now take responsibility for it. 
Oh and by the way, from Amazon.com on that movie:
80 used & new available from $6.74 (new $9.99)
--
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father. |
|
tainotopole
join:2004-11-11
Henderson, NV
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :said by ykronic :LOL you got caught downloading copyrighted materials off the internet by the dmca and you're blaming comcast? They're not the ones threatening to cut you off for downloading illegal files, that'll be the government cutting you off along with slapping a hefty fine. There is no way to catch downloaders, unless the RIAA/MPAA can hack servers. They catch uploaders because P2P clients have to announce the IP address of the source of the upload. Because copyright protection is about controlling authorized distribution, being able to identify unauthorized distributors is the key to enforcement; P2P clients make that easy to do. Easy way. Said party rents server and uploads movies/music/games and releases to warez websites then logs the IP's of everyone that accessed that file. So they can catch you downloading too.
And anyone that just outright Downloads movies or Popular music illegal is pretty ignorant.
3. run your cable modem un-registered
How do you do that? |
|
scottfern
join:2006-06-06
Tinley Park, IL
| reply to triggz
Hi,
I just wanted to say I checked my Comcast mail and I have a very similar email. So I take it this is just a first warning? I don't really understand their ambiguity in regard to what happens on the next offense?
I just installed PeerGuardian. Does it really work? |
|
NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
1 edit | reply to hoyleysox
BT connected IP addresses. |
"Infringement Source: BitTorrent".
BT uploads while it is downloading. In my screen shot, every IP address is downloading parts of the file from my computer, which means that I am uploading that file to them. If this was an RIAA/MPAA copyrighted file (it is not), then the RIAA/MPAA could get my IP address from their client, in this same fashion.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
|
NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Schwinn555
said by Schwinn555 :Yes it is clear what has happened. Comcast has agreed to let people have access to your files so they can see what your downloading and looking at. There are still ISP's that refuse to share private info Comcast isn't one of them. Just one of a long list of reasons not to use Comcast. There is no such agreement. Your IP address is a public record. When you participate in a file share via P2P application, your IP address is announced to the world by that application. It is the nature of the TCP/IP network, and the P2P client. Comcast has nothing to do with this announcement of "private" data, because the IP address is not a private datum.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
|
NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to tainotopole
said by tainotopole :Easy way. Said party rents server and uploads movies/music/games and releases to warez websites then logs the IP's of everyone that accessed that file. So they can catch you downloading too. Unless they are running the warez site, or the site feeds access data back to them, they can't access the IP addresses of the downloaders. In any case, making their goods available in that manner would be, legally speaking, "entrapment". You are not allowed to catch a crook by enticing him to commit a crime.
And anyone that just outright Downloads movies or Popular music illegal is pretty ignorant.
I think I will not get involved in a battle over righteousness.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
|
NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
2 edits | reply to scottfern
said by scottfern :Hi, I just wanted to say I checked my Comcast mail and I have a very similar email. So I take it this is just a first warning? I don't really understand their ambiguity in regard to what happens on the next offense? On the next offense, the RIAA/MPAA probably will might escalate the matter. They will go down to their courthouse and file a "John Doe" suit, with the particulars; IP address, file name, etc. All the information in the TOS warning you got from Comcast. They lost a court action to Verizon on appeal (Verizon refused to release customer information under the flimsy "DMCA subpoena"), so they will get a real subpoena. With a real subpoena, issued under judicial supervision, Comcast will have no choice but to release that information. Then they will either send you a registered letter, or send a process server, inviting you to join them in court. It will be a court in your city (that is what a real subpoena requires).
Unless they thing it is too expensive, and Or they might just file another complaint with Comcast. In which case, to protect themselves from RIAA/MPAA litigation, Comcast could well put a "Walled Garden" configuration on your cable modem.
I just installed PeerGuardian. Does it really work?
Probably not. It can only block IP addresses which the PG author has verified are used by RIAA/MPAA agents. I am pretty sure that they aren't so stupid as to try and track uploaders from the same six IP addresses. Not to mention that there are probably enough false positives to lock your P2P client out of the best download times; you will come across as "firewalled".
Your best defense is to not trade files copyrighted by the RIAA/MPAA members.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
|
K Patterson
Premium,MVM
join:2006-03-12
Columbus, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to NormanS
"In any case, making their goods available in that manner would be, legally speaking, "entrapment". You are not allowed to catch a crook by enticing him to commit a crime."
Absolutely correct, but there are two caveats:
If it is a criminal matter, you only have to avoid the enticement. You can, for example, put a cop out on the street pretending to be a hooker and get a conviction if he/she does nothing more than acquiesce to a john's solicitation.
If it is a civil matter, then it is katie bar the door. Enticement is lawful, and it is used often, or so I am told.
Not to take away in any way from a typically useful NormanS contribution!
Cheers,
Kip |
|
SparkChaser
BURY BECK
Premium
join:2000-06-06
Downingtown, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :Isn't iTunes a network where you pay for material you download? Yes, I was just using it as an example of my lack of knowledge of the whole peer to peer culture.
Thank you for the excellent explanation of what takes place. |
|
LarryE
join:2000-07-29
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to triggz
I'm glad there are some people here with morals, and I applaud all of you for standing up for what is right. And then again, it appears there are some here who don't give a rats ass about anything or anyone but their greedy amoral selves. What a wonderful lesson your giving to readers of this forum. Go ahead steal and we'll even tell you how to do it so you don't get caught. Then you can be a big shot like us and can brag about how much you steal and get away with. It's no wonder this world is going to hell in a handbasket.
Let's see if the moderators censor this. |
|
russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| reply to dallas
said by dallas :Can't any clearer than that... Too bad it's false. Having a copy of a movie does not give you a perpetual license to view the movie for personal non-commercial use, though the copyright industry would like you to think that way. Rather, it gives you ownership of a copy of the movie. |
|
MrBradTX
join:2001-05-23
Carrollton, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by russotto :said by dallas :Can't any clearer than that... Too bad it's false. Having a copy of a movie does not give you a perpetual license to view the movie for personal non-commercial use, though the copyright industry would like you to think that way. Rather, it gives you ownership of a copy of the movie. You own the physical media on which the movie is recorded. You do not own the movie itself.
If I buy a copy of the latest John Grisham novel, I own the paper and ink, but I do not own the story. |
|
Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | reply to triggz
Pay for a premium newsgroup service and never have to worry about this.
Bit torrent seems to be 90% safe with TV Shows (unless you are downloading a full season/dvd), but not for movies. |
|
Mentat
The zeitgeist sucks
Premium
join:2001-02-25
Sugar Land, TX
1 edit | reply to LarryE
said by LarryE :I'm glad there are some people here with morals, and I applaud all of you for standing up for what is right. And then again, it appears there are some here who don't give a rats ass about anything or anyone but their greedy amoral selves. What a wonderful lesson your giving to readers of this forum. Go ahead steal and we'll even tell you how to do it so you don't get caught. Then you can be a big shot like us and can brag about how much you steal and get away with. It's no wonder this world is going to hell in a handbasket. Let's see if the moderators censor this. Moral indignation over p2p is so 2001.
--
It is said that the two great sins are pride and hate. I elect to think of them as the two great virtues. To give away pride and hate is to say you will change for the good of the world.To vent them is more noble;the world must change for the good of you. |
|
netgear
Restless Native
Premium
join:1999-12-20
Arlington, TX
·AT&T DSL Service
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Vamp
said by Vamp :Pay for a premium newsgroup service and never have to worry about this. Never is a very long time. All legitimate "premium" newsgroup services must adhere to the law, as well, and that is as it should be.
»www.giganews.com/legal/dmca.html |
|
DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| reply to LarryE
said by LarryE :I'm glad there are some people here with morals, and I applaud all of you for standing up for what is right. And then again, it appears there are some here who don't give a rats ass about anything or anyone but their greedy amoral selves. I'm actually pleasantly surprised about the morality of most people on these boards. There are a hardcore of posters who seem to advocate breaking the law where ever possible, but the majority of people here appear to appreciate and understand morals, ethics and the law. |
|
