TK Junk Mail
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|  Spending big bucks($30b); is it worth it?
Verizon Wireless has invested $30 billion into its network in the last six years -- $5 billion on average every year since 2000 when the company was formed -- to ensure network reliability and increase coverage and capacity. Verizon and its corporate partner Vodafone in the Verizon Wireless venture is spending huge amounts of money to roll out EVDO. Is it worth it? The speeds they deliver are OK but will need to increase significantly in a few years. Will they have the funds to continue spending that kind of money, especially Verizon, who is also spending billions to roll out Fios.
Who says the telcos aren't investing in infrastructure? Verizon certainly is.
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But when will Verizon continue to wire up the rest of the Buffalo area for FIOS? |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | You would think Rochester would be a primary Fios target.
My hometown of Binghamton has no EV-DO, nor will it see Fios anytime soon as it's predominantly blue collar. |
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TK Junk Mail
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| said by Karl Bode  :You would think Rochester would be a primary Fios target. My hometown of Binghamton has no EV-DO, nor will it see Fios anytime soon as it's predominantly blue collar. I don't think Verizon is redlining blue collar areas. There have been plenty of posts where Verizon has implemented Fios in less than upscale areas. Just a look at BBR's Google map shows that: »/gmaps/fios
If they are redlining Binghamton area, maybe it is because that is where you live.  
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Karl Bode
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| I find it utterly impossible their number crunchers aren't redlinging in some fashion, picking just enough lower-income locations to dodge allegations. From a purely business perspective they'd be stupid not to, as doing anything else wouldn't maximize profit to investor satisfaction.
Cities like Binghamton will see Fios, it just won't be for five to ten years. |
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| said by Karl Bode :I find it utterly impossible their number crunchers aren't redlinging in some fashion, picking just enough lower-income locations to dodge allegations. From a purely business perspective they'd be stupid not to, as doing anything else wouldn't maximize profit to investor satisfaction. Actually, it turns out that people in lower income areas often spend as much or more on video services as they do in upper income areas. So yes, it is a decision based on $$$, but no, that doesn't mean they avoid 'blue collar' areas when deciding where to go with fios. |
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Actually, it turns out that people in lower income areas often spend as much or more on video services as they do in upper income areas.
Often? Where did you get this data?
Again, I'd be shocked if there is not some very interesting number crunching going on at Verizon HQ. I'd have a hard time believing the suits at Verizon haven't analyzed every neighborhood based on every criteria under the sun, from race and density to income and favorite toothpaste, then made decisions accordingly based on a combination of calculations that told them where the maximized profit potential lay.... |
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lolwhat
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Problem is, Rochester's incumbent isn't Verizon - it's Frontier. Maybe if Verizon went on an M&A spree, Rochester would get FiOS... someday. 
It'd be nice if Frontier were to roll out FttP. As it is, however, through a bunch of corporate shenanigans, Frontier has gone from a local telco (Rochester Telephone), to local/LD/mobile (as part of Global Crossing), to a nationwide hodgepodge of mostly rural fixed-line carriers (as part of Citizens Communications). Frontier's DSL deployment is probably worse than Qwest's, because they don't want to can't afford to spend the money for a serious go at it.
Sorry for the rant. It's just that my parents, who live not too far from Rochester, can get either RoadRunner ($50 a month!) or satellite - no DSL. They use $10 dialup instead.
Fact of the Day: Frontier Cellular was acquired by Bell Atlantic Mobile, which then became Verizon Wireless. Thus, most of VZW's footprint in upstate New York was actually owned by Frontier at one time. |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Ah...I forgot about that! Is Watertown Frontier as well? |
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dvd536
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said by TK Junk Mail :said by Karl Bode :You would think Rochester would be a primary Fios target. My hometown of Binghamton has no EV-DO, nor will it see Fios anytime soon as it's predominantly blue collar. I don't think Verizon is redlining blue collar areas. There have been plenty of posts where Verizon has implemented Fios in less than upscale areas. Just a look at BBR's Google map shows that: » /gmaps/fiosIf they are redlining Binghamton area, maybe it is because that is where you live. Thats only because they gotta go thru the poorer areas to get to the affluent ones.
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lolwhat
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Nah, I think Watertown is Verizon. |
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johnh123
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said by Karl Bode : quote:
Actually, it turns out that people in lower income areas often spend as much or more on video services as they do in upper income areas.
Often? Where did you get this data? I've heard it directly from suits at comcast and at&t |
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