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Dagda1175

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bogus?

Last time i checked, verizon wasnt a state run company. they can charge whatever they want. you choose to use them or not.


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said by Dagda1175 See Profile :

they can charge whatever they want.
And there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, Verizon needs to be honest with their customers about the total price of their service. In most businesses, advertising one price and charging a higher price is an illegal practice. The government is partially to blame for this because it has not enforced truth-in-advertising laws with respect to Internet and cell phone service.
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

And there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, Verizon needs to be honest with their customers about the total price of their service. In most businesses, advertising one price and charging a higher price is an illegal practice. The government is partially to blame for this because it has not enforced truth-in-advertising laws with respect to Internet and cell phone service.
And that is the key issue. They can charge what they want, but they should be upfront about it and not make up some phony line item charge to make it seem like it is a government tax.
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P Ness
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reply to Dagda1175
those fees are not illegal and there is nothing the fcc can do about it.

they can add a fee tomorrow called "fucked-in-the-ass fee" if they really wanted to...and prob would get away with it.
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

reply to Dagda1175
the choice between Verizon or nothing isnt a choice. If a customer could drop verizon to go with a competitor that would make sense, but verizon has exclusive deals in many areas. That would make them a monopoly and the fees are an abuse of their monopoly.
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jrobcet

join:2003-02-16
Moscow, ID

reply to TKJunkMail
Exactly. Why has it become so difficult for corporations to be honest. Want to raise rates? Be honest with your customers. Let them know when, and how much. In my case, I would simply pay the extra $2.70. And do you know why? It's because Verizon has provided excellent service to my home.

But despite that excellent service, I'm seriously thinking about going with someone else because of this. Adelphia (now Time Warner) was not quite as reliable, but at least they were always honest with their rates.

moonpuppy

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said by P Ness See Profile :

those fees are not illegal and there is nothing the fcc can do about it.

they can add a fee tomorrow called "fucked-in-the-ass fee" if they really wanted to...and prob would get away with it.
According to the article:

quote:
The Commission applied pressure late last week, saying it planned to send “letters of inquiry” to both carriers based on concerns that the new fees violated the Commission’s “truth-in-billing” rules.
So there might be some validity to the illegality of these fees.


Bobcat
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reply to TKJunkMail
They tell you what the fee is right on the web page where you order:

said by Verizon :
Additional surcharges, taxes, and other fees apply. These include, but are not limited to, a tax recovery fee which varies by state (where applicable), and a supplier surcharge of $1.20 per month for 768kbps plans and $2.70 per month for 3Mbps plans, which is not a tax or government imposed fee.


wwdubbia

join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY

reply to Dagda1175
said by Dagda1175 See Profile :

Last time i checked, verizon wasnt a state run company. they can charge whatever they want. you choose to use them or not.
no, but it is a state tariffed company.


click_310
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join:2002-12-06
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reply to TKJunkMail
Never thought that the day would come when I would agree with TKJunkMail See Profile. It must me a sign that rapture is imminent.


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said by click_310 See Profile :

Never thought that the day would come when I would agree with TKJunkMail See Profile. It must me a sign that rapture is imminent.

OK, everyone in the bunker.

Except you, Flanders!
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Karl Bode
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reply to click_310
It's hard for anyone to deny the fee is sleazy. The problem comes when you ask Tom what should be done about the bogus fees....


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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

It's hard for anyone to deny the fee is sleazy. The problem comes when you ask Tom what should be done about the bogus fees....
If Verizon includes it in their base advertised rate, I have no problem with it. At least then, making comparisons becomes easier to do and you can chose the service you want while having all the facts easily at hand instead of having to dig for them. All non-governmental mandated fees should be above the line and included in the base advertised rate.
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Karl Bode
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If it were included in the base advertised rate, they wouldn't have to dress it up as a fee.

What should be done if Verizon refuses to remove the fee, and fines aren't enough?


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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

What should be done if Verizon refuses to remove the fee, and fines aren't enough?
If the FCC has the authority to mandate the fee be removed or moved to base rate, then Verizon should comply. If they refuse, then I assume the FCC can take them to court and force it to happen and have all excess moneys collected returned to ratepayers.
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Transmaster
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reply to Karl Bode
A new Fee

The new KY jelly fee. We are going to screw you but it will feel good


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Re: bogus?

said by Bobcat See Profile :

These include, but are not limited to,
That's the rub, they list one or two but not the rest.

Put this in perspective, if you go into your local grocery store and grab a bag of doritos off the shelf for a two dollar posted price then get to the counter and they add the .50 bagger fee, the .27 locust reduction tax, the .05 seasoning tax, and the .31 special ink fee. Granted, they posted about the ink fee and bagger fee at the shelf but never said word one about the others until you got to the register.

Oh yeah, so you throw the bag down and drive down the street to the other local supermarket but wait it's the exact same company just a different store. So is the next one, and the next one.

So you go to a mom and pop store but they have to have their product shipped in on the trucks the big store uses so they have to add the "big store truck fee" to your bill.
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Transmaster
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reply to TKJunkMail
Yes all Telco's should be forced to list all of their fees up front, in print and on line. When these fees see the light of day they will disappear like a cockroach in the day light. Of course then they will disappear into the over all rate but the overall rate will still be visible and open to competition. The telco's will not be able to advertise a monthly rate that has no relation to what your actual monthly fee will be.
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Re: A new Fee

mmmmm, Kentucky Jelly, very tasty!


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