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N3OGH
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reply to Karl Bode
Re: Study was world based and not US based results......

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Good point. I also added notation that Minacom builds gear for those same providers.
It's like McDonald's doing a study, saying the have the best burgers, and then telling everyone they have the best burgers. How the heck can you trust these guys...

I don't think "incumbent" VoIP offerings are really such a bargain. Comcast wanted 30/Mo for their digital voice package. That was more than I was paying Verizon for a POTS line.

Of course, everyone has different needs. My POTS line is for incoming and 911 calls only, so a very basic, very stripped down line is fine for me. I use my cell phone for long distance.

I don't know how many people have tried VoIP and switched back to POTS like I did, and I bet it's hard to find a solid, trustworthy statistic. I'm guessing I'm not the only one, though.
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Karl Bode
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I've noticed my friends oddly migrating back to copper of late. Granted one was on Sunrocket....


Dezbend
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I just heard an SBC radio commercial today that waxed poetic about the reliability of POTS versus VoIP it went on to state that 11 customers per hour come back from VoIP(they forgot to mention how many are leaving per hour).
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R4M0N
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Glen Allen, VA
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said by Dezbend See Profile :

...it went on to state that 11 customers per hour come back from VoIP(they forgot to mention how many are leaving per hour).
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David
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reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I've noticed my friends oddly migrating back to copper of late. Granted one was on Sunrocket....
You are not the only one that has noticed that, the STL power outage here I think has something to do with it.
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Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26

Interesting



Seems like I said a while back that VOIP was unreliable crap and the smart move was to stay with POTS (like I have. Besides, why pay more for less?) unless you just used a "free" VOIP service for long distance. But then, with the proliferation of cellphones, LD isn't a problem for most anyway.


Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA

reply to Karl Bode
I'm sorry but... Broadband connection quality MATTERS MOST!

My guess is people who try VOIP and are unsatisfied don't have the VOIP provider to blame, but their broadband provider instead.

Case and point: I have Sunrocket and a friend has Vonage. I also have Cable, DSL, and Wireless access I can test each out on.

When using the wireless provider (which is fine for web browsing or downloading, but not games) both Vonage and SR get dropped calls, echo problems, etc.

When using the cable modem (10mbit) it was perfect, better than POTS on both Vonage and SR.

The DSL is a little different beast. Its only a Verizon 768 line and like most cheap "consumer" router/modems the VZ one has issues. For example, I can run a ping and every minute like clockwork I get a brief connection interruption. On VOIP this is barely noticable, but it DOES make the call sound like a cell phone dropping out briefly.

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Moral of the Story: VOIP rocks, your broadband provider ucks.


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reply to Fatal Vector
Re: Interesting

said by Fatal Vector See Profile :

Seems like I said a while back that VOIP was unreliable crap and the smart move was to stay with POTS (like I have. Besides, why pay more for less?) unless you just used a "free" VOIP service for long distance. But then, with the proliferation of cellphones, LD isn't a problem for most anyway.
I don't know about you, but I was able to terminate 24 simultanious calls thru my Asterisk PBX for FREE, to the USA, using VoIPUSER.ORG. They don't charge a thing, and are based out of the UK. You can call anywhere in the world, and the quality (considering it's free) is great. uLAW and GSM compatable. May not be $0 in the US yet, but it sure is elsewhere.
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