Nightwing
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| Star Trek:TOS Extreme Makeover
This look really interesting. I can't wait to see the improved look. The first episode is going to be "Balance of Terror"
»news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060901/en_tv_eo/19912
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Many of the series' beloved yet decidedly dated visual staples, from the galaxy glimpsed in the opening title sequence to the myriad otherworldly landscapes seen from the bridge of the starship Enterprise, will receive a CGI makeover to appeal to the sons and daughters of 1960s-era Star Trek fans who actually found someone to mate with.
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Nightwing
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| I remember seeing a proof of concept video a few years back. A special effects company did this and presented it to Paramount.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSYC6Wlbv8 |
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SRFireside
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Oh God. This can go either pretty nifty or very, very bad. I hope they do minimal modifications to the original series. I hate to see another crapfest like some of the stuff Lucas put in Star Wars and Return of the Jedi.
Oh, and I know a few Trekkers who would take exception to any TOS Enterprise that isn't painted solid white with none of that metal panelling done. Official books already explained the reasonings behind that so if they change the "canon" I can see the geeks scream. |
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seaquake
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Can't say I'm surprised to see this happen. I'm surprised it's taken this long for them to mess with the original episodes.
Just leave them alone. The cheesy effects are part of what made the show so great for it's time. I guess the next thing they'll be looking to do is replace the human-in-the-suit Robby the Robot with something more "robotic". |
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Logan 5
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This Proof Of Concept was created based on the Original Episode "The Doomsday Machine" which is my all time favorite TOS Episode....
Can't say I like the 'updated' look of the planet killer, or for that matter the phaser blasts from the 2 starships...The beams looked washed out and like they were dribbling from the ships rather then being a solid beam of light and energy that implied force and power.
I DID like the shuttlecraft launch sequence where it rose from the floor of the hangar deck like the runabouts do from DS9..
I think a makeover will turn out ok provided the following happens:
1. Keep the improvements as close to canon as possible. Look at the trouble Enterprise got in to with the pre TOS ship looking better then the Sovreign Class Enterprise-E from the movies or the original TOS era ship..
2. Keep Rick Berman and Brannan Braga AS FAR AWAY from this as they possibly can be. They poison everything Trek related they touch.
Let's hope that Paramount "get's a clue" and does the right thing with this....I don't know how much more crap the francise can be expected to endure before the plug is permanently pulled....
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qdemn7
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The Okudas are helming this, so I think it's safe to say it will be done right.  |
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hmm....
Here's an idea...
Why not explore the time travel stuff started by TOS [Star Trek 4], carried on by Deep Space 9 [Remeber they visited the Trouble with Tribbles TOS show?], then touched upon Voyager [Janeway became an ensign on the enterprise TOS], then missed badly with by Enterprise.
The series could put the modern time traveling peeps into any of the Star Trek series....
Might be fun for a limited run.
It might be interesting to see what the TOS looks like cleaned up and enhanced. One of the "cooler"
touches in Star wars was the movement of the piolets in the X wing cockpits as they went around the sun.
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Lazor25
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The crappy effects weren't charming at all; they were a distraction. I'm all for this. |
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HomeLvr
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Ive never seen a full episode of TOS. Ive seen all of TNG, part of Deep Space Nine (tv) now im watching season 3 of Voyager. I might check out TOS with the improved look.
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Indeed. The old planet killer looked much more menacing, I think.
And maybe it's just the flash video, but I don't remember the Enterprise looking so.. bad.. in the original starting credits.
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I watched the video posted here, then I went back and viewed the original episode.
While I do see differences, I do not see any "improvement". I also agree with what was posted earlier, I like the old doomsday weapon better than the new one. I think I know why:
The Doomsday Weapon was made of neutronium, which is extremely dense and therefore would be difficult to work with. The original showed this by having the device look a little rough around the edges. The new one has smooth and clean lines, as if neutronium was relatively easy to work with.
While I applaud the effort to improve the original, I just don't think that (at least as far as I have seen so far) the whole thing was thought out as completely as it should be. While spiffy new graphics may be fine, the full intent, meaning and understanding must be kept intact, and I just don't think this makeover follows through.
We must always keep in mind that ST:TOS was mainly about Gene Roddenberry's view of the future and how this future could be. While the action, effects and such were also a nice touch, fun to watch and an excellent vehicle with which to spread his message, they were not the end-all and be-all of ST:TOS.
My opinion, based on having been a trekker since the first run.
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Nightwing
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This video is a proof of concept video that was made back in the late 90's to show Paromount. I don't think the people that did the video are involved with the new project. The video was just an example of what "could" be done, not what will be done. The quality of the video I posted is pretty poor, and I wish I could find the original ones, but I don't think the people that did it have a website anymore. |
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seaquake
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| said by Nightwing  :This video is a proof of concept video that was made back in the late 90's to show Paromount. I don't think the people that did the video are involved with the new project. Exactly. At least let's hope not since the phasers and the doomsday machine both looked horrible.
One thought did come to mind, though. If they are going to short this on network TV, is it going to run during and hour and a half span? The reason I ask is because I believe the running time for TOS episodes is 51 minutes (that's uncut). Most 1 hour shows are 42 to 45 minutes in length to squeeze in all the commercials. |
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Not bad but the stuff they did for mirror darkly and UGH TATV are better. |
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Did it occur to anyone what today's date (09/08/2006) is?
It's the 40th anniversary of the airing of the first
episode of TOS, The Man Trap.
»www.startrek.com/startrek/view/n···215.html |
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seaquake
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A sneak peak of the new CGI can be found here:
»www.startrek.com/startrek/view/n···775.html
I think more than anything the remastering will make a world of difference. It would be nice if when they come out on DVD if they'd provide both the original and updated version.
Also, if anyone is interested, the animated series looks to be coming out on DVD in November. |
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Nightwing
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Not Bad. |
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seaquake
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| said by Nightwing :Not Bad. Concur! What I was not happy to hear is that they are going to still show the series in 1 hour increments and chop scenes as needed. They are remastering the whole episode so to truly enjoy these updates (if they turn out well) you'll need to buy the DVD. |
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Wily_One
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I'll be happy to see the updated episodes. I loved what they did with the retro glimpses of the original TOS-era starships in the DS9 and Enterprise episodes.
But those that scoff at TOS because of the dated special effects and cheap sets are missing the point. What made the show great were the stories and the underlying message of a hopeful future for the human race. (Especially profound considering the tenuous circumstances during the Cold War in the late 60's.) |
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said by Nightwing :Not Bad. That looks so cool and way more realistic!  I can't wait to see what else they've enhanced in it when it airs! That would also make a great desktop wallpaper if it was a lot bigger.
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