TKJunkMail
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| Re: Why... said by Rob  :The reason why the baby bells are under regulation is because they've shown in the past that they cannot play nicely when they have free reign.. why in the past few years have we been giving them more control and less regulation? Because phone service is no longer a monopoly. There are plenty of competitors available - from cable to wireless to CLECS. There is no longer a need for regulation. Especially since the new competitors are not regulated.
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Kendall, FL
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| Re: Why... said by TKJunkMail :said by Rob :The reason why the baby bells are under regulation is because they've shown in the past that they cannot play nicely when they have free reign.. why in the past few years have we been giving them more control and less regulation? Because phone service is no longer a monopoly. There are plenty of competitors available - from cable to wireless to CLECS. There is no longer a need for regulation. Especially since the new competitors are not regulated. It doesn't matter. They still can't be left alone. They are like children. Look at Verizon and what they did with the USF Fee when it was removed. Yea they removed it, but after an uprorar.
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Auburn, PA | That isn't true in all areas. My cable is so bad that you cannot use any VOIP due to tremendous packet loss. DSL is only through Verizon here. There are not "plenty of competitors" in all areas. | |
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stomp357
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Lake Charles, LA
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| Re: Why... said by jdracer47 :That isn't true in all areas. My cable is so bad that you cannot use any VOIP due to tremendous packet loss. DSL is only through Verizon here. There are not "plenty of competitors" in all areas. Same here in Lake Charles, LA. You'd be "ignert" to rely on cable to provide VOIP phone service. It was Cox, but now it's Sundden-un-link. It was bad when it was Cox. now it's non-existent. It's either the telco, or cell phone service. | |
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ifarrell
join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :said by Rob :The reason why the baby bells are under regulation is because they've shown in the past that they cannot play nicely when they have free reign.. why in the past few years have we been giving them more control and less regulation? Because phone service is no longer a monopoly. There are plenty of competitors available - from cable to wireless to CLECS. There is no longer a need for regulation. Especially since the new competitors are not regulated. But it is a Monopoly in many areas.
Unless you count VoIP which isn't exactly competition of like, then BellSouth has no competition.
Also, like VoIP, Wireless isn't exactly reliable either or for that matter affordable to some families.
For VoIP you need Broadband Service (that adds a minimum of $20 a month and that's if it's on special) and Wireless is typically $30 a month for a pretty much useless plan. At least a Land Line you can get for less that $20 no frills.
In North Carolina, specifically the Triangle region, there is no other Clec on the area that competes with them on a like for like basis.
The only reason they want to do this is to hike prices so that low income families can no longer afford service.
Time Warner Cable is under similar restrictions and so is PSNC. | |
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| ILECs love to claim that Cable Digital Phone and VoIP services are not reliable in terms of E911 outtages. If there claim is true ( since they are making the claim, we will stipulate it's true ) then there really isn't competition and therefore POTS shoud continue to be regulated in the interest of the pubic good. | |
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davoice
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Saxapahaw, NC
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| said by TKJunkMail :Because phone service is no longer a monopoly. There are plenty of competitors available - from cable to wireless to CLECS. There is no longer a need for regulation. Especially since the new competitors are not regulated. If phone service is no longer a monopoly, could you please come to my town in Person County, North Carolina and tell me who my other choices are?
We're an exurb of Raleigh/Durham... there may be competition in Raleigh but there's none here.
There is no cable phone service here. There are no CLECs. And there is no wireless coverage - not even *analog* cellular - in 35% of the county.
(That's being generous... b/c I'm getting that 35% based on my 5 watt bag phone that I still carry... not my CDMA only handset issued by Alltel.)
Even in the 65% of the county that has cellular coverage, it's iffy. I can't use my Alltel handset inside the house. My firsthand experience w/ the cell coverage here is pretty deep. I'm part of the group who convinced Cingular that they needed to expand from 1 cell tower in the center of town covering just the city limits to a few more in the county.
Go here and scroll down to the bottom:
»www.hycolake.com/CingularProject.htm
The green triangles on the map represent where there is presently NO coverage. Convincing them to being coverage out there took some serious arm twisting and phone calls from some very influential state legislators who happen to to have houses on the lake and can't get coverage at their houses.
Oh... and Bellsouth is the local phone provider in the Hyco Lake area. How convenient that they had no wireless coverage in the area where they offer local dialtone but almost all the area in the county that is Sprint/Embarq territory has great Cingular coverage. Oh... and there's NO Sprint PCS coverage anywhere in our entire county. So Sprint's no princess either.
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roamer1
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1 edit | Re: Why... said by davoice :There is no cable phone service here. There are no CLECs. And there is no wireless coverage - not even *analog* cellular - in 35% of the county. How is DSL availability? (I'm guessing "rather poor to nonexistent".)
This type of situation is one reason why blanket statewide dereg of ILECs makes no sense -- blanket dereg not only deregulates areas that have significant competition, it also deregulates areas that have none. Deregulating on a rate center-by-rate center basis makes much more sense.
I'm part of the group who convinced Cingular that they needed to expand from 1 cell tower in the center of town covering just the city limits to a few more in the county. I'm quite surprised that it's Cingular and not Alltel or US Cellular building out, given Cingular's all-but-refusal to fix other large coverage gaps (southeast Tennessee) and Alltel's and USCC's fairly good track record in rural areas in NC.
Oh... and Bellsouth is the local phone provider in the Hyco Lake area. Is that area served out oof Milton? If so, BellSouth isn't there anymore, as they sold that area to Madison River/Mebtel (of Vonage-blocking fame) last year, mainly since it's in a Verizon LATA (Danville, VA) and BellSouth couldn't extend its normal network into that area, leaving it all but isolated from the rest of BellSouth.
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| Though that may be true, the wireline telephone service is still a utility and a life line service. Cellular, and the toy-telephone service called voip is not a lifeline service at this time.
As long as telephone remains the true wireline service in this country, then telephone needs to remain regulated as a utility.
At this point, the only "TRUE" wireline alternative is DIGITAL SWITCHED cable telephone service - not VOIP either. There has to be ONE service in this country that is a lifeline service. So far, that's bell.
Like love or hate bell, they are still tried and true dial tone that you KNOW will be available when you need it.
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