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GOLFnSUN
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 Google the Good turning into Orwell's 1984

Looks like Google the Good is turning into Google the spy. Can George Orwell's 1984 nightmare world be far off if Google continues to expand their tentacles into the home. LOL, and people worry about the NSA and AT&T. So look at who the real threat may be.
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I don't sweat it. I just plug my mic into the feed from one of my neighbors homes and fool them.


Jason Levine
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I wouldn't worry about this just yet. What details there are about this indicate that there is a conversion done on the PC that reduces the sound to a 4KB "fingerprint" and that the fingerprint can't be reverse engineered into the original sound. (Kind of like MD5 hashing the audio data.) The fingerprint is transmitted and the ads are shown based on that. Given Google's past performance, this program would likely be strictly voluntary and easy to get out of once you've opted in.

They might not even have a specific product in mind. This could just be one of those projects that the Google engineers use their "20% time" ( »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#.22···.22_time ) working on.


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Looks like Google the Good is turning into Google the spy. Can George Orwell's 1984 nightmare world be far off if Google continues to expand their tentacles into the home. LOL, and people worry about the NSA and AT&T. So look at who the real threat may be.
"Don't suspect your friends... report them..."

Now, where did I put that report pad for sheeple who have figured out more than is good for them and/or society...?

Where did my friends go?

"Google! Oh, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGLE! Come here, boy! Hey! Where ya goin', boy? Go get 'em, boy! Hey! UNG!!! Let go of me! I didn't do anything! UNG!!! Get that gag away from my Mf Mf MMFF MMMMFFF Mf MMFF MMMMMFFFF!!!!! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!"

Moral of the story: If you trust Google, you might get yor ass taken away by something like George Orwell's thought policedogs, be treated to a "Gag Lunch" and you might never be heard from by a human ever again...

...Or something like that...
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said by Jason Levine See Profile :

I wouldn't worry about this just yet. What details there are about this indicate that there is a conversion done on the PC that reduces the sound to a 4KB "fingerprint" and that the fingerprint can't be reverse engineered into the original sound. (Kind of like MD5 hashing the audio data.) The fingerprint is transmitted and the ads are shown based on that. Given Google's past performance, this program would likely be strictly voluntary and easy to get out of once you've opted in.

They might not even have a specific product in mind. This could just be one of those projects that the Google engineers use their "20% time" ( »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#.22···.22_time ) working on.
You might be one of "Them..."

Note to others: "Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!"
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>> What details there are about this indicate that there is a conversion done on the PC that reduces the sound to a 4KB "fingerprint" and that the fingerprint can't be reverse engineered into the original sound.

So, how then can Google send targeted ads if they dont know what is said? The entire point of a targeted ad is that they pertain to what the conversation is about.

No matter how the fingerprint is represented (4-bytes according to google), it will be used as a lookup into a database to decipher what those 4-bytes represent. 4-bytes is enough storage to represent 4.3 billion different things. Whatever those things may represent is limitless in Google's databases.

To put this into perspective, a 4-byte fingerprint could easily represent the last 171,798 detected words in a conversation (based on a 25,000 word english vocabulary).

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