JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| reply to kamm
Re: Slingbox issues have a solution: pay per bit
said by kamm  :said by TKJunkMail :The Slingbox issue for wireless providers like Verizon have the same solution that should be implemented to address all bandwidth hog issues, regardless of infrastructure - a pay per bit pricing model. With that model, those who consume the most bandwidth pay the most money. This does 2 things: It puts the burden of upgrading infrastructure on those causing the need for an upgrade. And it puts a self-limit on those biggest bandwidth hogs - how much are they willing to pay to consume huge amounts of bandwidth. At some point they will cut their usage to match their available funds. Spoken like a true cable astroturfer - everybody pays for his/her bandwidth already. There's no need to change the business modell and there's no legal basis to cap unlimited service.It's only the problem of wireless and cable providers - there's no capping on DSL or FIOS and we know the reasons for both... And no, the cable companies won't get a free ticket to avoid those questions about long years of postponed or completely missing network upgrades. You got your service fees, your money, you SHOULD HAVE UPGRADED ALREADY.If you have miscalculated then fire your execs and get a loan or close your business.It's the sheer greed of (your) cable industry, nothing else - there's no sane arguments behind this prosposed business modell change. Cable industry is similar to Hollywood, to the **AAs: they don't want to invest into serious upgrades, rather change the course to make sure their government-granted yet illegal monopolies remain intact without any serious investment. Jesus your like a 3 year old on crack . Focus ! The story is about Verizon wireless services not cable. The word is model not modell by the way. Did you buy a pair a sneakers there or something?
Now back to the article in hand. Freaking 10 GB on a cell phone, that is just sick. Man those folks eyes must be hurting. As long as people agree to Verizon's TOS than there is not much they can do. End of Story.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by JSRoman :Now back to the article in hand. Freaking 10 GB on a cell phone, that is just sick. Man those folks eyes must be hurting. As long as people agree to Verizon's TOS than there is not much they can do. End of Story. If that is the case then why is Verizon advertising video viewing on their phones?
This is NOT about using a slingbox but about paying for VCast content. Verizon wouldn't care if you used 100GB/month as long as it was all VCast content that you paid for.
All cell phone companies hate it when you bypass their content for free content. Ringtones and wallpapers are 2 examples. Some phones you can put your own ringtones on but cell phone companies discourage it (using the copyrighted material excuse.) |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
| reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman :said by kamm :said by TKJunkMail :The Slingbox issue for wireless providers like Verizon have the same solution that should be implemented to address all bandwidth hog issues, regardless of infrastructure - a pay per bit pricing model. With that model, those who consume the most bandwidth pay the most money. This does 2 things: It puts the burden of upgrading infrastructure on those causing the need for an upgrade. And it puts a self-limit on those biggest bandwidth hogs - how much are they willing to pay to consume huge amounts of bandwidth. At some point they will cut their usage to match their available funds. Spoken like a true cable astroturfer - everybody pays for his/her bandwidth already. There's no need to change the business modell and there's no legal basis to cap unlimited service.It's only the problem of wireless and cable providers - there's no capping on DSL or FIOS and we know the reasons for both... And no, the cable companies won't get a free ticket to avoid those questions about long years of postponed or completely missing network upgrades. You got your service fees, your money, you SHOULD HAVE UPGRADED ALREADY.If you have miscalculated then fire your execs and get a loan or close your business.It's the sheer greed of (your) cable industry, nothing else - there's no sane arguments behind this prosposed business modell change. Cable industry is similar to Hollywood, to the **AAs: they don't want to invest into serious upgrades, rather change the course to make sure their government-granted yet illegal monopolies remain intact without any serious investment. Jesus your like a 3 year old on crack . Focus ! The story is about Verizon wireless services not cable. The word is model not modell by the way. Did you buy a pair a sneakers there or something? Now back to the article in hand. Freaking 10 GB on a cell phone, that is just sick. Man those folks eyes must be hurting. As long as people agree to Verizon's TOS than there is not much they can do. End of Story. FYI: I have merely pointed out what's behind our well-known cable indusrty shill's idea. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :said by JSRoman :Now back to the article in hand. Freaking 10 GB on a cell phone, that is just sick. Man those folks eyes must be hurting. As long as people agree to Verizon's TOS than there is not much they can do. End of Story. If that is the case then why is Verizon advertising video viewing on their phones? This is NOT about using a slingbox but about paying for VCast content. Verizon wouldn't care if you used 100GB/month as long as it was all VCast content that you paid for. All cell phone companies hate it when you bypass their content for free content. Ringtones and wallpapers are 2 examples. Some phones you can put your own ringtones on but cell phone companies discourage it (using the copyrighted material excuse.) Excellent point. Every wireless company would love to serve you 100GB video if you'd buy all of that from their catalog. |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| reply to kamm
Isn't your name calling like,
A shill calling a shill, a shill?
I recommend holding a poll to name KAMM the undisputed knower of all thing broadband. 
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | Moot point. A shill is a shill is a shill.
Assuming one is a shill, of course. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
1 edit | reply to LeftOfSanity
said by LeftOfSanity :Isn't your name calling like, A shill calling a shill, a shill? Umm what kind of shill I am? 
I trashtalk about AT&T or VZ just as much as cables but don't forget, cable monopolies are the most dispecable entities of the industry by far.
I recommend holding a poll to name KAMM the undisputed knower of all thing broadband.
PS: ah I know it: I'm a customer industry shill. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to tsu9
said by tsu9 :Moot point. A shill is a shill is a shill. Assuming one is a shill, of course. |
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL
| reply to kamm
said by kamm :PS: ah I know it: I'm a customer industry shill. Ahem. In these parts, that is otherwise known as a "communist" or "socialist." Get your insults right!
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Ironix
@algx.net | reply to JSRoman
Re: Slingbox issues have a solution: pay per bit
"Jesus your like a 3 year old on crack... ...The word is model not modell by the way."
Perhaps you shouldn't correct typos when you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" yourself... |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :All cell phone companies hate it when you bypass their content for free content. Ringtones and wallpapers are 2 examples. Some phones you can put your own ringtones on but cell phone companies discourage it (using the copyrighted material excuse.) ...and supermarkets hat it when you park your car in their lot but walk next door and shop at their neighbors. Some of them will even tow your car. As long as they've posted the rules, why do you complain?
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by calvoiper :said by moonpuppy :...and supermarkets hat it when you park your car in their lot but walk next door and shop at their neighbors. Some of them will even tow your car. As long as they've posted the rules, why do you complain? calvoiper The complaint is not what the rules are but the rationalization. The cell phone companies won't come out and say that you can't use your slingbox because you aren't using their services (and costing them lost revenue.) I know if I go into a parking lot meant for certain stores (their property) that I can be towed if I do not patronize those stores at that time. |
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wev567
join:2006-02-25
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to JSRoman
Aren't the caps applied to laptop card users, who use the mobile connection like a wired cable or dsl line? |
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