Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | Shaw speeds (BT specifically)
Howdy,
Thinking of switching over all my services from MTS (Winnipeg) to Shaw. Had some reservations about the phone service, which include echo during LD calls. But more importantly - does Shaw still throttle BitTorrent speeds? |
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gordst
join:2006-06-04
Winnipeg, MB | I know morpheus i get 200kb and its really fast not sure about bt |
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grabeck
join:2003-07-17
Calgary, AB | reply to Derfel
no problems in CGY with BT... I usually pull down 400-650K. |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB
 ·MTS
1 edit | reply to Derfel
I'm interested in Winnipeg specifically, but I would assume any throttling would be nation-wide, I guess. What about upload speeds? I know Shaw is much slower than MTS for upload speeds anyways (75-100kbps difference on average), but is BT slow in this way? |
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nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
clubs: | reply to Derfel
Shaw throttles BT here in BC, but it can be circumvented by enabling encryption, should the option be available in the client.
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tumble
join:2005-03-31
Vancouver, BC
| reply to Derfel
Yes, they still throttle BitTorrent.
By using encryption you will be using more CPU resources and possibly limiting your connections to certain peers (result: slower speeds). AzureusWiki has an article about it: »www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Av···_shaping.
Also, there have been reports that throttling encrypted traffic is real, there's even a company which offers a product that does just that: »www.allot.com/index.php?option=c···temid=18. Not sure if Shaw uses them but there isn't anything that can be done about it right now. |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | reply to Derfel
That's awful. Certainly is making me rethink whether or not I want to even bother switching all of my services to Shaw now. Terrible. |
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yakeovo
@204.209.x.x
| i don't know about everybody else but i never had a problem with BT other then up, and i don't care about keeping a raito of 1. i am always able to download off BT at 600KB/s with no problem and i use BitComet, most i can do up is at 60KB
but i heard that they only throttle Upsteam and in certain areas not all of shaw. |
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phoneboy2
@shawcable.net | reply to Derfel
They don't throttle in Kelowna. I regularly get 300KBytes/s on Shaw standard. |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | reply to Derfel
Just talked to a co-worker - he says he's lucky to get 200kb down and 5kb up with BitTorrent, and he's been told by Shaw that they are throttling in Winnipeg. So that solves my problem - I am NOT leaving MTS and their speeds! |
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omgomg
@telus.net
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They throttle only upload. you should only be concerned if you are required to have a good upload ratio to get great download speeds.
to those that says they are getting great download speeds...well duh..of course you are. they aren't throttling download so that doesn't imply your area isn't being throttled. |
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phoneboy2
@shawcable.net | reply to Derfel
Upload is fine too. What do you have to say to that omgomg. I luv how the Telus people are always so desperate to throw rocks at Shaw because Telus speeds suck so badly. Everything is throttled on Telus! |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | reply to Derfel
Seeing I don't use TELUS, I don't see the relevance.
And I get 500kbps download and 90kbps upload, no caps. No need to leave now, I guess. |
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jarib7
End User
join:2003-04-06
Lake Cowichan, BC
| said by Derfel  :Seeing I don't use TELUS, I don't see the relevance. And I get 500kbps download and 90kbps upload, no caps. No need to leave now, I guess. you get 500kbps download and have no need to leave? Who needs caps at 500kbps:) As a reference my downloads on Shaw extreme are over 9000kbps. |
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phoneboy2
@shawcable.net | reply to Derfel
yea, what he said,
And I was talking about omgomg with the "@telus.net" after his name. |
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phoneboy2
@shawcable.net
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The Telus B$ spreaders have absolutely NOTHING to argue about anymore except caps which is pointless given the speed difference. Telus effectively throttles everything up and down without any extra equipment. DSL is a very effective non-discriminant throttler of clueless subscriber.
So basically the B$ spreaders have NO argument except...."oh ya....well just you wait till 2009 when Telus upgrades their network.....then it's gonna be a halfway close horse race..."
But hey, you got a free Ipod or monkey or LCD or whatever bribe Telus is offering this month.
LOL! |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB
·MTS
| reply to jarib7
said by jarib7 :said by Derfel : you get 500kbps download and have no need to leave? Who needs caps at 500kbps:) As a reference my downloads on Shaw extreme are over 9000kbps. Maybe you misunderstood... my speed tests come in at around 4500/650. I only pay $25.99 a month for that speed. It's that fast anytime I want. I can download 500GB a month and hear nothing from my ISP. That's why I'm not switching. |
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jarib7
End User
join:2003-04-06
Lake Cowichan, BC
1 edit | 
screenshot |
edit added screenshot for your viewing pleasure |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB
·MTS
2 edits | reply to Derfel
I was just about to do that same thing:
$40.95 plan usually, $24.95 for the first year. With TV, phone and internet, I get $15 of the entire bill. Your 9300 speeds are impressive, but I'll save my $10/mth and also save myself the bandwidth cap. I'm usually averaging 100GB down, 70GB up a month, if not more.
What are you getting for upload? |
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jarib7
End User
join:2003-04-06
Lake Cowichan, BC
1 edit | that's not too shabby:)
upload is about 1mbps a bit less |
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