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SpdStrm 5260. From The Beginning!!

Hey thanks for helping so far... Okay, as far where my info came from: there's this:

»whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=h_v···l_id=112

And there's the fact that if I bypass my router, feed a direct line to the internet, remove all firewalls (yes, the windows one too), basically remove ANYTHING that gives me ANY kind of protection and basically spread my legs to the internet, according to GRC.com, I am STILL completely stealthed and am unable to receive any incoming connections because my ports aren't being forwarded.

I am BAFFLED as to why this is happening. This is Forum #4 I've brought this up in, I've heard some great ideas, but nobody's been able to tell me what's going on. So if you need a challenge, there it is....

Thanks.....

reply to giveer

Hey thanks for the heads up. In the related story, if you have any theories as to why a bare-butted connection to the internet woul dbe seen as completely stealthed, I'd love to know.. (firewalls are off, router is currently not being used - just a straight open connection. Everything is still Stealthed. Which means everything is still driving me up the wall.

Easy. ISP proxy server.

Okay.. I set up my home network, but the ISP proxy thing is steppin into a different territory for me.. can I do anything about that or should I just call and yell at them?

Which I should probably do anyway....

reply to giveer
I'm going to jump into this, too.

Some ISPs block ports so you can't do things they don't want you to do. Who is your ISP?

reply to giveer
General Proxy test.
»www.broadband-help.com/tools/clientInfo.aspx

reply to McSummation
I'm with Bell Sympatico in Canada.. - and as far as I've read, and I've spoke to them, they don't block anything.
(For the record, this is so I can stream video and not do anything mailcious...)

I'm gonna check out this link the doc gave to me a sec....

Sorry to double post...

Followed that link:
Proxied HTTP: No.
all the others were n/a.

Flip your 5260 over and post the Model and the Part Numbers please.

Regards,

Doctor Olds

I can't upgrade to the 5660 if that's where you're going with that one....
But it's: 060-5262-001 (complies with part number 68 of the FCC if that helps.. :P )

Nope I was going here since you have a real 5260.

»Efficient Networks Forum FAQ »Can I add a serial port to my Model 5260?

»Efficient Networks Forum FAQ »What does the Model 5260 Serial Interface look like?

Yeah, I was actually reading up on that the other day.. but.. and this might be where my dumbness shines like a mental supernova.. but (especially since I was using this modem previously for streaming) but what would a serial port do for me in this case?

Doesn't this seem like an awful lot to get a few ports open/forwarded? Why can't life be easy, the gas be cheap and I have endless hot tubs full of warm pudding. I'm not asking too much I don't think.

Look at the menu list again. See anything about ports?

It's just that extra bit of evidence that you have another problem and it's not the 5260 which blindly passes all traffic.

What are you trying to actually do? How are you testing it?

Did you read the part at GRC.com about how to test your ISP for blocking ports?
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Your're right.. Granted, it CoUlD be another problem.. it's just that - it's just that I've tried everything I know to get it to work other wise --- which brings me to how I'm testing it...

Well, I'm trying to simply run a shoutcast server. That's it. Pretty simple right? It was running before, don't see why it won't now.. But, in any case.. I've done just about anything.. I consistently get the shoutcast server telling me it can't see me. Grc.com and canyouseeme.com all say the same thing about my ports and them being sealed tighter than my butt on ice. (ewww). I try running through my router - test every network setting I can muster - and when that gets silly, I just bypass the router and use the direct Internet line myself (which pisses my rommate off something righteous) and try it all again. Both times I get the same response from everything.
(I haven't found the ISP port checking diddy on grc...) I have called them and they told me they are blocking nothing.. but whatever, I'd believe my farts are worth money at this point.)

When you use the PC how are you making the connection? Are you verifying the IP that GRC shows you is your true IP?

What port number are you trying to use?

Did you try a non standard port to see if that would work?

GRC site here:
»www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Click Proceed then run the Service Ports Scan

quote:

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Service Ports Scan Application Guide
( Cool things you can do with our Service Ports Probe )

Detecting Ports Blocked by Your ISP

Internet service providers often block specific traffic entering their network before it reaches their customers, or after leaving their customers before it exits their network. This is sometimes done to block the exploitation of common security vulnerabilities, and sometimes to prevent their customers from offering proscribed Internet services.

As a customer, it can be useful and interesting to know which service ports, if any, an ISP has chosen to preemptively block in order to restrict their customers' global Internet traffic.

ISP port blocking can be easily tested, often quite rapidly, by arranging to allow the ShieldsUP! probe to have access to an unprotected computer. Since all non-stealth machines will respond to every open request — either affirmatively or negatively — ports appearing as STEALTH will be those blocked by your ISP, corporate firewall, or other external agency.

If your system is unprotected, without any personal firewall or NAT router, any ports showing as stealth are being blocked somewhere between your computer and the public Internet. This is probably being done by your ISP. Internet traffic directed to your computer at the stealth ports will be dropped before reaching your machine.

If your system has a personal firewall that can be instructed to "trust" a specific remote IP, you can temporarily instruct it to trust the ShieldsUP! probe IP of [4.79.142.206]. If, after doing so, most of the service ports change to either open or closed , you have succeeded and any which remain stealth are being blocked by your ISP.

If your system is operating behind a residential "NAT" router, the router will be acting as a natural and excellent hardware firewall. But that's not what you want for the moment. You can temporarily remove your NAT router and connect an unprotected computer directly to your cable modem or DSL line. Or, if you are comfortable reconfiguring your NAT router, you may be able to point the router's "DMZ" at one of your computers which has been instructed to "trust" our probe IP of [4.79.142.206]. If, after doing so, most of the service ports change to either open or closed , you have succeeded and any remaining stealth are being blocked by your ISP.

Finally, if your Internet security system, NAT router, personal firewall, or whatever, can produce detailed logs of incoming Internet packets, you could leave your existing security in place, clear your log, run the service ports scan, then carefully inspect your log for any consistently missing port probes. We send out four sets of probing packets because individual packets are sometimes dropped along the way. Therefore, it won't be unusual to see occasional missing packets from your logs. What you're looking for is a complete lack of packets bound for a specific port. A careful and detailed examination of your log will reveal any missing ports which are being blocked before they reach your logging tool. (Note that this technique is not quite as foolproof as the other approaches since ISPs could be blocking outbound packets from their customers, which the other approaches would detect but log-watching would not.)

After completing the experiments above, remember to return your system to its previous tight security and verify that everything is safe again by re-running any of our tests.

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"When you use the PC how are you making the connection?"
- Sometimes through the router with my Internal IP made static to the Internal IP set in the DMZ zone.
- And if I "wanna try" something else, I'll switch ethernet cables, and just connect through the modem directly. - Which, has never made any difference at this point.

"Are you verifying the IP that GRC shows you is your true IP?"
- As best as I can, yes, I'll get a few different sites all bouncing the same IP back to me.. although with ipconfig /all, my IP listed is just my internal IP, which I believe is supposed to be the case anyway. (?)

"What port number are you trying to use?"
- 8000 (Dodging the urge to say "Anyone that works")

"Did you try a non standard port to see if that would work?"
- A few actually. Everything's the same. I do remember using a different port than 8000 the last time for the server, but I don't really think that had any particular signifigance. Any ports in particular I should try?

- I've taken a whole double-monitor screenshot with all the network settings, DMZs, webpages and various items all opened, showing how everything is (or is not) working - if you'd like to take a gander... And on we go...