zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY | and i still dont know why..
voip is cheaper.. most cable co's let you choose to not have cable tv with broadband.. so why go with a phone company thats going to force you to have phone through them when u can get cable and voip?? |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| Only in the us do they force that other areas don't. Here in Colombia I can get dsl without a dial tone. Instead I use wimax and voip.
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
 ·Bell Sympatico
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said by zipjay  :voip is cheaper.. most cable co's let you choose to not have cable tv with broadband.. so why go with a phone company thats going to force you to have phone through them when u can get cable and voip?? Many telco's are offering DSL without phone these days, it's called "Dry DSL" or "Naked DSL". Bell Canada started offering this sometime ago. There are many users who have DSL only plus VoIP.
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | Define many because I personally can't name one off the top of my head. Then show me where it is that they offer this, as I doubt they do it in all their markets as well. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
 ·AT&T U-Verse
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said by Sean :said by zipjay :voip is cheaper.. most cable co's let you choose to not have cable tv with broadband.. so why go with a phone company thats going to force you to have phone through them when u can get cable and voip?? Many telco's are offering DSL without phone these days, it's called "Dry DSL" or "Naked DSL". Bell Canada started offering this sometime ago. There are many users who have DSL only plus VoIP. Bellsouth does not offer such a service, and they have coverage in 20% of the states...
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to zipjay
said by zipjay :voip is cheaper.. most cable co's let you choose to not have cable tv with broadband... And most cable companies charge you more for their internet service if you don't have cable TV.
It's really no different than what the incumbent telco's do....
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
1 edit | reply to Skippy25
said by Skippy25 :Define many because I personally can't name one off the top of my head. Then show me where it is that they offer this, as I doubt they do it in all their markets as well. Verizon for one. Check out their website.
And even if it's not widespread, this is the way the market is going, so while you are not entirely incorrect, you're not exactly up to speed either. |
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LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains | reply to Skippy25
speakeasy does it, I think... |
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mlbSAE
join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
·DONet
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Ok... I'll bite.
Cable internet (with slow upstream) in my area (Time Warner Cable - Road Runner) costs $50 without cable TV. Then add the VoIP service (another $23 or so), you are at $73 per month for internet and VoIP.
DSL through AT&T costs $27.99, plus the basic phone line being around $25. Thus, total cost is $53. I'm still $20 ahead. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | reply to zipjay
Well, if US Telcos would offer, umm, like, SPEED, they would crush the Cable COs. I doubt 6megs compares to 10-20 mgs.
Only Verizon has brains in the HSI area with FIOS. The other Bells are just awaiting the end of their existence. |
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA | reply to Skippy25
Qwest has been doing Standalone dsl for quite awhile also. One of the first major telco's that actually offered it |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| reply to mlbSAE
said by mlbSAE :DSL through AT&T costs $27.99, plus the basic phone line being around $25. Thus, total cost is $53. I'm still $20 ahead. OK, now add TouchTone, Call Waiting, Caller ID, Call Waiting Caller ID, 3-way calling, voicemail and various taxes and fees to that $25 phone line. |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home | reply to mlbSAE
How are you comparing the many features of a VoIP service to the "basic" phone line?
That's not equal. |
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daniyel
join:2001-05-10
Tucson, AZ
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Qwest does - cheapest route was with Qwest,net ISP and naked dsl line(no MSN) - and I hope they are in my neighborhood soon. I am stuck with cable right now, but would prefer DSL. Viva Upload  |
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mlbSAE
join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH | reply to smcallah
I can add all of those services and still end up very close to a wash... as I said before, going with cable and VoIP does not save me any money... |
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Stormscape
Premium
join:2006-07-10
Burnaby, BC | reply to sporkme
I get 1/2 of that stuff standard. The other stuff is $5 more total. You fail. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to smcallah
said by smcallah :How are you comparing the many features of a VoIP service to the "basic" phone line? That's not equal. Because all those features are included with most VoIP services.
Bellsouth can give me a basic phone line for $10.55/month. With that I can make or recieve a single call at a time. If I want call waiting, thats an extra $5/month. If I want caller ID thats another $9/month. Running total so far is $24.55 WITHOUT TAX and all I can call for free is my local area code. Upgrade to unlimited long distance... another $30 or so.... So thats over $50/month without thinking of the $15+ of taxes on top of that.....
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Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA | reply to mlbSAE
Comcast's fastest speed is $56 and voip is not available where I am. I pay $19.95 for phone and $27.99 for elite. Been with at&t for a while and they are pretty good have not had an outage in a long time. |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | reply to zipjay
I think its because most users just want the cheapest service's. And cable has never been known for being cheap.... |
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hamburglar_
join:2002-04-29
Columbus, OH | reply to wwdubbia
Yeah, but they charge almost as much for just DSL as they would for DSL _and_ a basic phone line. Not really naked. |
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