IcEr3K
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| Calif. sues carmakers over global warming
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California on Wednesday sued six of the world's largest automakers, including General Motors Corp. and Toyota Motor Corp., over global warming...
Source: »news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060920/us_···autos_dc
What do you guys think? I think it should be a pretty interesting case...
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Santa Rosa, CA | i think its like sueing mcdonalds for making fat people, blame the parents
plus toyota and GM are making steps towards making lower emission cars, SULEV etc. |
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Phil
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From the article, "An automaker trade group called the global warming move a 'nuisance suit.'" I would call it more of a "complete waste of time suit".
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RangerTX
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automarkers should move request this lawsuit get dismissed, as it's just stupid. I am sure all environmentalist on this board are thrilled this lawsuit been filed |
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1 edit | I'm sure the environmentalists here would be thrilled if there was some positive movement toward reducing auto emissions of all kinds, which may or may not have anything to do with this suit.
A combination of higher fuel prices, decent alternatives and (sadly) some government intervention is needed.
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aztecnology
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Where do trains fit into this argument...? |
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caddyroger
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said by RangerTX  :automarkers should move request this lawsuit get dismissed, as it's just stupid. I am sure all environmentalist on this board are thrilled this lawsuit been filed Why you against the the lawsuit . You are saying i"ll sue. |
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bobrk
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I think it's great. California has always led in cleaning up the air. It should continue. |
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I think its a bad idea.
Like someone else already said, car makers have been cleaning up their act.
Also, if this lawsuit goes through, guess who ends up paying...you got it! US!
This would mean higher prices for autos...
Edit...Forgot to mention more layoffs for the already struggling american carmakers. |
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CatSnak
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What a complete waste of our tax payers money!!!! |
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Great, sue the car makers over what the owners do with them. Time to sue sony because my TV has rotted my brain from sitting in front of it 24/7.
I thought frivolous lawsuits were being cracked down on, but when the state issues one ... time to sue the oil companies for producing all the extra gas we needed for our gas guzzling vehicles.
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Someone should sue the politicians that brought up this worthless lawsuit for their part of global warming. All the hot air they blow surely leaves its mark on the environment.
said by bobrk :I think it's great. California has always led in cleaning up the air. It should continue. This has nothing to do with cleaning up the air and everything to do with the government yet again trying to hit the lawsuit lottery. Who do they hit next? Any company that makes an internal combustion engine? Perhaps they will tax you for all the CO2 you breath out everyday. This is nothing but government greed. |
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bobrk
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| Going from internal combustion engines (which can be replaced with something else) to the CO2 I breath out (which cannot be replaced, other than by a very mean person) is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
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Can we sue California for allowing all these cars to be registered and driven in the state? You'd think the state could be held liable too. I'm tiring of these nutball legislators the Golden State keeps electing.
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if the suit is over the interference they've provided in lobbying in washington AND bringing their own suits against the state over more stringent air quality standards, then by all means, sue away.
in fact, even if it's not for those explicit reasons, the reasons still stand, so have at it.
american car manufacturers who fought efficiency tooth and nail can go suck eggs.
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| said by jig :american car manufacturers who fought efficiency tooth and nail can go suck eggs. What about the American consumer who has consistently valued other things (safety and comfort, for instance), above efficiency? Should they suck eggs too?
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| especially them, but if you can sue tobacco companies for medical expenses because they basically lied to their customers, you can sue american car companies for their interference with state health mandates as well. it's a public policy issue. companies shouldn't be allowed to interfere/interact with the legislature or public in a way that furthers tangible, measurable harm, especially in a dishonest way, and get away with it.
you can't sell porn to minors, you can't serve a drunk man a drink, you shouldn't be allowed to market an SUV as anything other than a station-wagon with a lift kit, and you shouldn't be able to push back air quality laws for decades because you have $$ and no ability to foresee future outcome.
the only way to make it stick is to make it cost them, suing them is fine.
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With all respect to the OP, the whole global warming debate is junk science in its purest form. One degree in 100 years? Please… people get a life. There is a well documented billions of years old history of natural 10-20 degree climate swings. Twenty years ago when there was more smog in the US the whacks were screaming about global cooling and a new ice age. FYI: Surprising to some man did not cause Jurassic climate changes.
Termite farts produce far more green house gas than the entire human race combined, not to mention volcanoes. Cow and water bufflo farts are up there too. It’s all funding driven research. Produce a report that says that the sky is falling and you get more funding, you get your name in the papers and get published in a left leaning, anti-business “science” journal you have pure job security and a raise for any half-wit university professor.
BTW: It’s the same sort of junk science that has led to a world wide ban on DDT. Yup everybody knows that DDT weakens eagle eggs – except it’s not true. But now that it’s an envriowacko article of faith DDT has been banned in Africa. The cost? About 1,000,000 black African children’s lives every year to malaria. All lost in the name of junk but oh so very PC science. Was it worth it? Not to me but then I’m not a university professor publicly hoping for a plague to wipe out mankind. Yup your tax dollars pay for freaks teaching that to your kids. What a world we live in.
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@comhem.se | Sorry but there is no connection to automobiles (or man for that matter) and global warming. The planet for eons has been going through a natural cycle of warming up, cooling off & warming up again.
What a waste of money. |
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| said by Big Blocke Lover :
What a waste of money.
The attorneys involved might disagree with you on that point. 
Some useful information here: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Warming
And then there is this news from yesterday: Scientists shocked as Arctic polar route emerges |
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