lawilson2
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| Microsoft Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive
Microsoft put some potential dents in the PlayStation 3's high-def armor during the company's Tokyo Game Show press conference, revealing a Japanese release date and a price point for the HD-DVD drive (November 22, approximately $177) as well as plans to support HD-DVD, video, and games in 1080p after a software update in the fall.
More info from CNET here... »reviews.cnet.com/Microsoft_Xbox_···netfd.mt |
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2 edits | i think it's a Scam u have to "pay Extra" for the drive
so in the End cost for your 360 is 643$ with included TAX @ 8.5% (same amount as the PS3)
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lawilson2
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| How is it a scam? You think they should give a HD-DVD drive away free? What is a good price to you?
I personally am very hesitant because we truly don't know which format will eventually be the dominant one. Don't forget what happened with Betamax and VHS, and even DVD and Divx. I want the wars to play out first before I invest, only to be disappointed later. |
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BonezX
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| ja ja, as it stands now tho, i'm probally not going to get it (don't really watch movies a whole lot) and i'd rather sit out the bleeding edge for a little while and give my wallet a break from buying games  |
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1 edit | reply to lawilson2
why?
High Latency (USB)
Needs a Lot of cpu Power cause of USB
low bandwidth (480mbps is burstable speed )
NO HDMI output
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BonezX
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| um.
HD-DVD uses under 480mbps
HDMI can be added as a replacement to the component cables(not offical, but they will make them)
CPU power = minimal other then decode and display(not like rendering a game)
BluRay
DRM heavy
Self Distruct command
Watermark
Callhome
slow drive speed
bloated display software
minimal surface protection
did i mention all of sonys departments had a part in creating the DRM for it, like, BMG for example. |
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3 edits | how many people are going to be paying "extra" for the add on?
at least i not a sucker for paying to play a game online
or wasting Money on a lemon
my USB mouse uses 18%(cpu Power) of two cores
oh yea if you are using all 3 USB ports it's going to be slowed down even more |
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BonezX
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| 18% cpu power ?
what the fuck is your mouse, a TB of scripts ?
i have a wireless keyboard and mouse over USB and they use none if not minimal amounts of cpu time on my DC system, so stop making things up to make your point.
as for the lemon comment, think about it for a second, you buy a PS3, BR fails, now you have a system that is supposed to play movies but there are no movies for it, and if there are they are expensive. where MS can release a HD-DVD drive, and if it fails, they can release another drive(being a BR drive) and it doesn't take away from the system. so which is the lemon now ? |
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4 edits | it's a 2000 DPI Laser USB 2.0 Mouse
Logitech G5
that is upto 18% of cpu power evens out at about 15%(core 1)
»www.hardwaresecrets.com/news/483
6.4 megapixels of image processing per second and sport full-speed bi-directional USB connection which delivers 500 reports per second.
That is why they make Combo Drives for Computers (via Component OUT for movies)
i will get my when it is 100$ for BR/HD-dvd Burner
and i do not use my game system(s)
to plays movies it just wears them out much faster  |
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BonezX
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dvi - HDMI = better. |
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plat2on1
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no HDMI on the 360 makes the hd-dvd addon usesless.
you are limited to SPDIF output for audio which means your stuck with the old audio formats.
anyone who buys it is a fool. |
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BonezX
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Canada | um the system does optical out through a toslink you know. |
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| said by BonezX  :um the system does optical out through a toslink you know. that is exactly what i said it does...SPDIF is dead. |
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BonezX
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| SPDIF is far from dead FYI
thing with HDMI to hook to a reciver it has to support HDMI and then you need to output from the reciver(after splitting the audio from the stream) and run the video to the display.
which is more expensive ? really think about it before you post a response. |
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1 edit | said by BonezX :SPDIF is far from dead FYI thing with HDMI to hook to a reciver it has to support HDMI and then you need to output from the reciver(after splitting the audio from the stream) and run the video to the display. which is more expensive ? really think about it before you post a response. oh so people who are dropping $400 on console + $200 for a hd-dvd addon who owns a $1500+ HDTV is suddenly worried about the cost?
the point is you cant get "next gen" audio formats from the hd-dvd addon for the xbox360.
and like i said in my first post, you would be a fool to buy it.
edit: just want to add that HDMI isn't the ONLY way to listen to these new formats, they can be decoded by the player and outputed via analog jacks. |
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BonezX
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| so you just went from saying that SPDIF is dead(which is digital) to pushing analog which last time i checked is lower quality then digital.
and for the $400+$200, think about the people buying the PS3 that are paying $600 to begin with without the option of not getting the drive ?
that's the thing about the player that i think your missing, it is an ADDON not a bundled peice of hardware, which means you can decide to just not get one.
and another refrence to the math at the top, most people don't like having to update their audio systems everytime a new connection pops up. |
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clubs: | i dont know why you think analog is lower quality then digital. thats just being uninformed.
who cares about the ps3? is this thread about the ps3? this thread is about the hd-dvd addon for the 360, which is a waste of money. |
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2 edits | reply to BonezX
said by BonezX :component out = meh dvi - HDMI = better. it's not even a HDTV but i am thinking about getting one after i get a job 
my only HDTV is my monitor (supports HDTV) MAX =1080I via DVI w/HDCP
and it's native PC resolution is 1680 X 1050 |
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Siryak
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| WDF....Why exactly does it matter how much CPU it uses? Whenever you are using it, the 360 will be running the HD-DVD and only the HD-DVD so who cares how much CPU it uses. Wouldn't matter if it used 100%. Also the optical audio sounds just fine.
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BonezX
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but it's OPTIONAL unlike the BR player. |
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