GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH | Here's a bet
5 bucks this doesn't release in November |
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | It probably will, but with around 10,000 units. |
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GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH
| They're saying with the Cell, the yield rate is 10-20%. And thats on a good day.
»www.edn.com/article/CA6350202.ht···id=21365
And don't forget about that dog slow memory read issue.
The price of the PS3 is justified from the standpoint of the manufacturers. But it's not worth it to pay that amount because it performs so poorly. I hope Nintendo gets some good sales. I still get angry when I think about how the Dreamcast "failed". I don't want the same to happen to Nintendo. I'd laugh if it happened to Sony, though. |
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plat2on1
join:2002-08-21
Hopewell Junction, NY
clubs:
| said by GunnarDanne  :They're saying with the Cell, the yield rate is 10-20%. And thats on a good day. » www.edn.com/article/CA6350202.ht···id=21365And don't forget about that dog slow memory read issue. The price of the PS3 is justified from the standpoint of the manufacturers. But it's not worth it to pay that amount because it performs so poorly. I hope Nintendo gets some good sales. I still get angry when I think about how the Dreamcast "failed". I don't want the same to happen to Nintendo. I'd laugh if it happened to Sony, though. first off the article is pretty old and second thats on 8 SPE Cells which IBM uses in their workstations, the PS3 only calls for 7 SPEs.
on top of that IBM usually charges per chip not per wafer so they eat the cost of the non-working chips. |
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GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH
| Yea, I read it and I saw it only needs 7 but IBM isn't going to be shooting for 7. I don't care if they make up for what they waste. It just means the price will be higher for us. The Cell is a joke. Developers are gonna have a hell of a time with it. They chose to program for the PSX over the Saturn because the Saturn was so complex. They're going to chose Xbox and Nintendo this time. |
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tsu9
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | The PS2 was "more complex" than other competition, and it's done quite nicely. |
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plat2on1
join:2002-08-21
Hopewell Junction, NY
clubs:
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said by GunnarDanne :Yea, I read it and I saw it only needs 7 but IBM isn't going to be shooting for 7. I don't care if they make up for what they waste. It just means the price will be higher for us. The Cell is a joke. Developers are gonna have a hell of a time with it. They chose to program for the PSX over the Saturn because the Saturn was so complex. They're going to chose Xbox and Nintendo this time. thats the whole point Cell is an 8SPE chip, ones that don't have 8 working SPEs are used for PS3s. what it means is the yields are much higher hen the 10-20% reported months ago. IBM is the one that gets the raw end of the deal not sony as they are the ones that eat the cost of the non working chips on a wafer.
with nvidia on board developing dev tools it should make it much easier to develop for the ps3. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by GunnarDanne :They're saying with the Cell, the yield rate is 10-20%. And thats on a good day. » www.edn.com/article/CA6350202.ht···id=21365And don't forget about that dog slow memory read issue. The price of the PS3 is justified from the standpoint of the manufacturers. But it's not worth it to pay that amount because it performs so poorly. I hope Nintendo gets some good sales. I still get angry when I think about how the Dreamcast "failed". I don't want the same to happen to Nintendo. I'd laugh if it happened to Sony, though. The Wii is nothing more than a glorified XBOX or PS2 with a crappy controller. Why pay $250 for that and $50 for games when you can get an XBOX or PS2 for under $130 and get loads of games for under $20? |
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GunnarDanne
join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH | Because the games are better |
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vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | reply to GunnarDanne
I'll double your bet, $10. |
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