StaticMan
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1 edit | ummmmmm
here is an idea..see past that pride in front of your face to realize that no software is perfect...try to deny it and you will crash and burn.(literally) |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| MAC asked for it...
# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used, thus if you are writing a malicious code, you will want to maximize your damages.
Now, MAC has been stepping up their "untouchable" speech lately. I'm quite sure that there are many people wanting to prove them wrong. |
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StaticMan
join:2006-06-21
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1 edit | EXACTLY, if they would have just kept their big mouths shut they would not have the mobs of hackers out there saying to themselves,"untouchable huh? we will see about that!" |
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LegoPower77
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1 edit | ROTFL, dumbasses. |
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trparky
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Re: ummmmmm
They're just trying to make them look useful again. In my eyes, Symantec hasn't been useful since NAV2003.
Ever since NAV2003, it has been nothing but bloat, bugs, bloat, bugs, and more bloat and bugs.
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alg
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Re: MAC asked for it...
said by LegoPower77  :ROTFL, dumbasses. Agree. That old "because nobody uses Macs is why they are safe" (and it's 'Mac' not 'MAC' people!!!!) is tired and flawed.
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alg
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Re: ummmmmm
SAV is still a good product imo. |
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Mike
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Pittsburgh, PA
clubs: | to uninstall |
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trparky
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clubs: | Ooooh... burn. |
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
| reply to alg
Re: MAC asked for it...
Tired maybe but Flawed no.
The "hackers" that exploit Windows that cause spyware, virii problems do so to make money. They DO NOT do it for publicity. The last thing they want is to sit on David Letterman and explain how they did it.
They want cold hard cash and such will ignore Mac's until it becomes profitable. |
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BhuddaBlessU
join:2006-09-24
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|  Mac Is Nothing...
But a piece of UNDER-PERFORMING and OVERPRICED computer hardware with an OS that also has full of hidden exploits but less hackers/crackers exploiting them due to the very low percentage of users with Macs on the computing world... Hell even my cheapo Intel Core 2 E6300 with 2GB of DDR2-667 Memory and a nvidia 7900gtx on WinXP SP2 can outperform the Macs for 1/4 of the price... And did i ever mention i never had a crash and/or issue with computer security? Lol... Remember Mac fanboys users, NO OS is secure in this world... Only "knowledge" on the end user's side will keep you secure.  |
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cableties
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| Sniff sniff! Sniff! I smell...a troll!
Sniff! |
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N3OGH
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| This whole thread was nothing but "troll lure" from the get go.
And of course, the tired old "My cheapo computer can outperform the Mac at 1/4 of the price" has to come up.
Just about every post in this thread is nothing but trolling.
Fine, you like Windows, have fun with it, enjoy it. No one is telling you what OS to use. Come to think of it, I don't think I saw one Mac person post in this forum yet.
Both OS's have advantages over the other. Let's just leave it at that... |
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blueOne
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join:2002-12-23
Alameda, CA
| reply to chemaupr
Re: MAC asked for it...
said by chemaupr :# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used, So, it could also be said that the reason IE has so many holes compared to Firefox is because it is more widely used.
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GilbertMark
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said by chemaupr :# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used, thus if you are writing a malicious code, you will want to maximize your damages. Now, MAC has been stepping up their "untouchable" speech lately. I'm quite sure that there are many people wanting to prove them wrong. The #1 reason they are most vulnerable is because of the sheer volume of PCs in the world. Maybe the tie for #1 reason is Windows is a piece of Swiss cheese of an OS full of exploitable code. The next reason they are the most vulnerable is because of the sheer number of dopes that use a PC and know nothing about a computer or security.
My 5 Macs at home have NEVER had any issues with any of this net garbage that gives Windows users headaches.
Symantec go away with your snake oil, this Mac user isn't interested.
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Mike
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Re: Mac Is Nothing...
someones mommy didn't buy them an ipod |
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA | reply to Shark_615
Re: MAC asked for it...
Since its Symantec spreading FUD about both PC's and now Mac's, just ignore the rhetoric. |
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2 edits | reply to GilbertMark
said by GilbertMark :The #1 reason they are most vulnerable is because of the sheer volume of PCs in the world. Maybe the tie for #1 reason is Windows is a piece of Swiss cheese of an OS full of exploitable code. I don't buy the myth that Macs have no viruses (have no real need for a commercial anti-virus product) because there are not enough of them (implying that as they become more popular, they will be infested). Hackers work very hard to assemble a botnet of just 1000 to 10000 computers, their botnet gets found, shutdown, stolen by other hackers. It is hard work being a russian botnet extortionist.
If these extortionists and spam generators could so easily pick and choose a security hole in OSX to exploit, they could then easily find green fields among mac users who do, after all, share files, send messages to each other, download software, stay online all day and night and browse web pages just like windows users.
But they do not. There are no, none, nada Mac botnets, spam and click-fraud generators!
It cannot be explained by market share anymore. It is too easy to find as many Mac (or linux or BSD) machines in that vast sea of IP addresses as anyone could possibly want.
The answer is something more important: Macs are by default more secure, holes are fixed faster, and the OS is just far less vulnerable to neophytes unconsciously installing malware.
I purchased a Mac for my parents and they have to type the root password to do anything important to it. They have to take several actions in order to install a new application. I fully expect to come back in a year and see that hardware issues aside, it is working exactly as it did the first day they opened the box! It is available for any hacker to overtake - the owners do not read or understand security bulletins (although it is set to silently download and install updates weekly). They will also not become Symantec or any other AV company customers, if the AV packages look and work like windows AV packages then either they are not necessary, or the Mac OSX design has failed.
I also am totally against a world where AV company products are necessary for my smartphone, my car system etc etc. If a device needs a 3rd party, or built-in, AV product like Symantec then it has failed at the design phase. They are dying to find reasons to expand into those markets but, sorry, outside windows, I think they invent their own business justifications. |
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