rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Verizon shouldn't get off for free
you're an industry shill. who do you work for Verizon? |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| said by rit56  :you're an industry shill. who do you work for Verizon? I am an industry shill because I think there is nothing wrong with a company selling unprofitable assets??? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense pal. 
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GlennAllen
join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA | reply to rit56
Just capitalism at work. |
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
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Broadband is not a utility so under no circumstances nobody has the right to push them to provide broadband to Maine since no business will do anything in a unprofitable area. It's not being a corporate shill it's simply a study of economics.
What the people of Main must do is find a solution to there troubles and Verizon should have no say on it either. If they want to block competition that's another matter and anyone who does agree that Verizon should be allowed to block someone else from starting is in reality a corporate shill imho. |
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH | With triple play, and in VZ case, quad play, the excuse for not services an area for economic reasons is getting harder to justify. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to wifi4milez
The fact is, Verizon is cherry picking like other ISP. Which is not good for the "people".. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| said by JamesPC :The fact is, Verizon is cherry picking like other ISP. Which is not good for the "people".. No its not. This is quite the opposite of that actually. The lines are already in place, and Verizon is simply thinking about selling them. How can a company "cherry pick" something they no longer (or soon will no longer) own??
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
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| Verizon, doesn't have the RIGHT to sell those lines. You see, Verizon didn't pay for those lines, the PEOPLE paid for the lines. That's not a hard concept to understand now. The issue is that verizon doesn't feel like servicing the people who paid for the infrastructure over the last 75 years. Verizon would be worthless if it didn't make all the money it made (while part of bell). The lines, and the PEOPLE who paid for the lines, are a national resouce. Verizon should be held responsible for maintaing, and yes, upgrading if necessary. This concept of 'dumping' the unprofitable area's is a travesty, one that the megacorps of amerika continually try and foist off on the unsuspecting public. It's time for the FCC to show some balls, and force verizon to do what's best for the country, Screw the shareholders, they've made their money back a hundred times over already. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
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| said by karlmarx :Verizon, doesn't have the RIGHT to sell those lines. Riiiight. A private (ie. NON governmental organization) doesnt have the "right" to sell its assets. Thats a good one.
said by karlmarx :Verizon should be held responsible for maintaing, and yes, upgrading if necessary. Verizon is responsible for maintaining all the assets it owns. If they cease to own them, they are no longer responsible for them. Furthermore, Verizon is not required to "upgrade" anything. As a private company they can chose if they wish to spend millions of dollars on an area that will never allow them to recoup the investment. I know its a very tough concept, so try and follow along!
said by karlmarx :This concept of 'dumping' the unprofitable area's is a travesty, one that the megacorps of amerika continually try and foist off on the unsuspecting public. It's time for the FCC to show some balls, and force verizon to do what's best for the country.... Hmmm, I dont even know where to start with this one. If you think the idea of a company having the right to sell any part of its assets is a travesty, then you honestly have a lot more to worry about in life. As for the FCC forcing Verizon to do "whats best for the country", THAT is a "travesty". The FCC has no authority to determine such things, and if it did we would all be in a lot of trouble.
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| wifi.... you are missing the entire point. Verizon is not like a normal private company because it uses subsidized money (public money) to build the infrastructer. Just because we gave verizon money to build something does not make it the owner of the lines. Operated by but not owned unless it bought the lines back from the people (government). The lines are not apart of Verizons Assets (unless purchased back) because they are for US. "Verizon was in the right position (part of the Bell family) to build the network for the American PUBLIC." |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
| wifi4milez is a corporate shill.. he is very similar in his posts to tkjunkmail especially when it comes to defending verizon. at least tkjunkmail admits that he owns stock in telco's. any private citizen who defends verizon is an employee especially someone here because all their abuses of their customers are presented here. why else would this guy defend them like this? |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
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| said by rit56 :wifi4milez is a corporate shill.. he is very similar in his posts to tkjunkmail especially when it comes to defending verizon. at least tkjunkmail admits that he owns stock in telco's. any private citizen who defends verizon is an employee especially someone here because all their abuses of their customers are presented here. why else would this guy defend them like this? Defending Verizon?? HA! Apparently you are basing that on my responses to this one thread only. Not that I would have expected you to actually do some research and make an informed statement. I advocate ALL private companies making money because they are not charity organizations. If I am a corporate shill I guess that makes you a clueless shill. 
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| Ok "karlmarx", Verizon has NO responsibility to these lines, and they're even trying to find someone to cover the servicing for them. You people and your "entitlement" are ridiculous. I live near, and drive through the areas all the time. There are barely exits on the highways, forget people. Half the land are just named "township 91". If I were a shareholder of Verizon I would extremely pissed off if they were spending money developing this network for, essentially, the trees. The people who moved to those areas moved there BECAUSE there aren't other people, it's the lifestyle they were looking for. They are prime candidates for dial-up or satellite service. There aren't even radio stations in some of these places.. jees.
Verizon is essentially selling the servicing rights to this area. They can do this because there is a tiny profit to be made by providing the service. There has to be a profit because that's what incentizes free peoples to provide services for others. Service without profit is serfdom at best, and slavery at worst. Verizon is NOT making a HUGE profit off this area of the country.
And wifi may be a corporate apologist, but he's certainly NOT a shill. Just like you're a Supra-Socialist, but probably not a communist. |
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