  Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | reply to blahh0 Re: $249.99 U.S
"what a HATER."
What a dufus thing to say. The truth of the fact that it was made under contract to M$ specs is simply the truth. How is that being a "hater"?
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  phattieg
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| reply to kangabil said by kangabil :That is has M$ label is my real worry. How many patches before it really works. How many bugs that will ensure it WON'T work And if I did buyt it (no way Jose') then I'm tied even tighter to the M$ octapus. Buy M$ machine, get M$ permission to play only M$ labelled software and on M$ approved ownloads. I don't think so thanks. Well, my experience with Microsoft NON-PC devices is pretty good. Not to mention there is a large community already that is familiar with it. The good thing about this being Microsoft made is the hacks and mods that will become available to make the device better. It's like everything else, only since the device will have a larger group of developers (unlike the Mac, smaller group of idea makers) I think it just might take off... -- SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1. |
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  blahh0
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  Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | reply to odreian615
Who cares who manufactured it? Point is that it was made to Micro$oft specs. |
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  NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28 Arlington, VA
| reply to markopoleo I have a Dell DJ20 (20gigs). I currently have 1,707 tracks, with 8548MB of space left. I have every song I like on it and will fill it up in the coming years as I include newer songs that will become my favorites.
To be honest I don't see the point of a study that says x amount of people only have x amount of spaced used on their hard disk because over time people will add to it making that whole argument moot. |
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  SRFireside
join:2001-01-19 Houston, TX
| reply to Pashune I own close to 30 GB of music on my computer. That's not thousands of mp3 downloads either. That's transfers from CDs and records I own. Granted I have a lot of music and I encode the music at 192kbps, but that still means I have more than 10Gb. My 30 GB Zen Touch works fine for me. I haven't maxed out the storage (because I don't need ALL of my music library to go), but it's nice to see the room for expansion.
BTW rock on with your SanDisk player. If you ask me a good mp3 player is the one that meets your needs. You don't need a lot of storage, but want a small and sturdy player? Bingo. |
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  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS
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| reply to kamm I don't know a soul who has more than 10 gb of music Ordering hardware online is a joke; the last few times I've ordered computer hardware from 2 DIFFERENT sites, I've waited almost a month for the packages to arrive. My mail/postal service in my area is pathetic. So, the SanDisk mp3 players were all that was available in my area. Almost every mp3 I have is encoded at 128 kbit, with a select few at 256 kbit and up. Sure, the quality can be somewhat mediocre, but with the stuff I listen to, the music isn't even purchasable. I'm not someone with big $$$ to blow. ^_^ I'd rather spend $250 on a new life. Yeah, call me poor, but that's how my family works. I rarely leave my home, so why would I need an mp3 player with such massive storage? My school doesn't allow an mp3 player in possession on the premises. SanDisk has done what I wanted it to do. =o And for the soul who said iPods were better; I'm not laying a finger on those. My girlfriend has had THREE of them; all which died in one year. And if she has trouble with them; chances are I'm going to as well. This rant need not continue..
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  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS
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| reply to Pictor Guy Anything past $50 at the moment is out of my profit, if I buy it and it works, and it settles my needs, why complain? Sheesh, I only have 5 gb of music on my computer. That's around..4,000 mp3s.  |
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  kamm
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| reply to Pashune said by Pashune :Agreed. I paid $50 for my Sandisk 512 MB mp3 player. Though expensive and limited in space, I don't go places often; and when I do, it makes for a good time killer I'm sorry but it's hardly a comparison - in fact your player is quite overpriced if we calculate the usual $/MB price, not to mention it has way more feaqture - let alone the fact that 512MB is technically useless for anybody with lot of high-quality (256-320kb MP3 or FLAC) music files like me.
My BIG-BIG-BIG beef with most of the playes is the missing FLAC support - it's ridiculous, I refuse to use ANY DRm'ed shitface codec for my own CDs. I have a PSP w/ 4 gig mini-HDD, it's quite a brick for weekdays when I only need a music-only device, I was eyeballing with Sandisk's 8 gig flash player - even expandable with miniSD - but NO FLAC...! Are you listening, Sandisk? OTOH Cowon's excellent iAudio 6 supports FLAC and everything else I want and even more but it's 4 gig only (and sports a mini-HDD though I don't care about it)...
I want a FLAC-enabled player with AT LEAST 8GB space!!! |
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| reply to markopoleo That is what movies are for. For the longest time I wouldn't buy an Ipod. I just didn't get it, bought a creative Zen and I was never really happy with it. Then I finally broke down and grabed a 5th gen Video Ipod and love it...once I bought a skin to protect the screen. I load my DVD's onto it and watch them in the gym. -- 4 More years and we won't have a country. |
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  peter_m Premium join:2005-07-13 Canada, QC
1 edit | reply to Pictor Guy Re: Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
But this should have better video.. larger screen then the current iPod. I bet it has more RAM and a faster processor as well. Also will be less expensive then Apple's iPod but most importantly it will be funny to have it run Linux while the case says Micro$oft.

But seriously, installing Linux will remove any silly restrictions, will give access to more codecs, will allow you to customise it with third party software and will satisfy urges to mess with Micro$oft.
It's a win-win situation unless you want to use the DRM stuff, then it's a no-no. |
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  odreian615
join:2006-01-18 Chicago, IL 1 edit | reply to kangabil Re: $249.99 U.S
M$ actully didnt make it Toshiba did |
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 Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21 Sammamish, WA
| reply to Ahrenl said by Ahrenl : Now $300 for a 30GB video Ipod which has a terrible looking screen, and a GUI made by Apple; I don't deem a good value. FYI The 30GB iPod has a new(er) screen and is $249 (not $300). |
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 Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21 Sammamish, WA
| reply to rachelsfx said by rachelsfx :Smart to play iTunes stuff too which may slowly break iPod's strangehold on MP3 players at their ridiculously high prices for supposed quality. How will they do that is Apple is still holding fairplay?
And how are MSFTs prices any better? |
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 Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21 Sammamish, WA | reply to peter_m Re: Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
You can already install Linux on the iPod |
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| reply to navalpatel Re: $249.99 U.S
If you don't need a 30GB player, then how can you determine if the pricing is correct? Personally I think $250 is a great price if it has a screen that is outstanding. I don't know if it does, but I know my Vision:M which I paid $250 for does.. Since I ride a train for 45mins twice a day, not only do I use it watch a lot of movies, that I'd otherwise never get to see, I also keep 10-15GB's of music on it, which even now, has ALL been listened to thoroughly.. Now $300 for a 30GB video Ipod which has a terrible looking screen, and a GUI made by Apple; I don't deem a good value. |
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  rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27 Pensacola, FL
| reply to Speedy8 Automatically imports your existing music, pictures and videos from iTunes and Windows Media Player in a variety of formats
If it plays iTunes music and videos, it looks like M$ is going full steam after Apple. Smart to play iTunes stuff too which may slowly break iPod's strangehold on MP3 players at their ridiculously high prices for supposed quality. |
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  rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27 Pensacola, FL
| reply to Anonymous Microsoft announces users need to download 15 patches including one that lets hackers exploit a flaw in its firmware that could allow a takeover of you computer or a network.
Requirements: Vista (works with XP with software with more DRM than anyone thought possible). |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| reply to peter_m Re: Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux
said by peter_m :I'm sure some hacker or group of hackers would love to have it boot LINUX... I would buy one just for that! What good would that do if you cant use it due to the DRM? -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
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 DarkSithPro
join:2005-02-12 Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Anonymous Re: $249.99 U.S
Hey guys, what Anti-Virus program does it come with? |
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