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dadarkside
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Who ever said life was supposed to be fair?

Exposing the flaw is fine.
Pointing it out to Apple is fine.
Publishing your findings BEFORE Apple has a fix for it, not so fine.

Since the talented individuals who found the flaw intended to hold Apple's feet to the flame (so to speak), what did they expect Apple to do? Take it up the ass?

LOL, aint happenin.

If credit for finding a flaw was all they wanted, why did they threaten apple to expose their flawed drivers in a very public forum?

I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for these guys.
Props for finding the flaw, but, hey, it isn't too bright to threaten someone with deep pockets.

Life aint fair, stop expecting it to be fair and your life will get easier.


Maxo
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said by dadarkside See Profile :

I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for these guys.
Props for finding the flaw, but, hey, it isn't too bright to threaten someone with deep pockets.
So might makes right? These people had a right to expose this flaw. If Apple was refusing to acknowledge the flaw then they should come forward with the details to force Apple to fix it, which is essentially what they did. Just because Apple has more money than them doesn't give Apple the right to bully people around.
This is all barring what it was that Apple was able to do to silence the guy. Seeings how we don't know there is speculation that maybe there was something going on we don't know about.
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digitalfreak

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Exactly. If Apple refuses to even acknowledge that there was a problem, then these guys had every right to go public with it. Still amazes me that companies think "security by obscurity" works. Another fine example of the Steve Jobs "Reality Distortion Field".

dadarkside
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reply to Maxo
Never said it was right. Clearly said that life wasn't fair.
Read a little more carefully...

The guy was free to speak.

I do believe, however, that doing so, would have been a job limiting decision.

However, Apple is also free to exert pressure. (most likely of a financial nature, and directed towards his place of employment.)

Again, threatening people with deep pockets can be risky.

Just sayin dude, not supporting Apple here, but, they threatened Apple, Apple threatened back, the dude chose employment.


JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
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reply to dadarkside
Apple had plenty of time to patch it before these guys were going to go live with the flaw. Sometimes the only way to get a company like to "do the right thing" is to shame them into doing it.

dadarkside
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said by JakCrow See Profile :

Apple had plenty of time to patch it before these guys were going to go live with the flaw. Sometimes the only way to get a company like to "do the right thing" is to shame them into doing it.
So?

Nobody likes having their hand forced. Individual or corporation. I am not saying Apples actions are right. I think...Predictable fits this scenario though.

They took a swing at Apple, Apple swung back. What did they expect?

The guys went after someone with deep pockets.

Do so at your own risk.


Niklaus

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reply to dadarkside
> Just sayin dude, not supporting Apple here, but, they threatened Apple,
> Apple threatened back, the dude chose employment.

The guy doesn't work for Apple, so it's none of Apple's business what he says and doesn't say.

His employer should have told Apple to stick it where the sun don't shine!

dadarkside
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said by Niklaus :

> Just sayin dude, not supporting Apple here, but, they threatened Apple,
> Apple threatened back, the dude chose employment.

The guy doesn't work for Apple, so it's none of Apple's business what he says and doesn't say.

His employer should have told Apple to stick it where the sun don't shine!
Apple apparantly has some influence over his employer, this is true. His employer didn't feel that supporting him against Apple was a wise business decision.

Bummer. That's life. It aint fair, it just is.
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