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What the hell - follow the friggin money???

What I don't see anyone discussing is the damn money trail!


The point of spammers is to get you to go buy their Anatrim/Hoodia/whatever product. How do you buy?


With a credit card


The money is tracable! I have received unsolicited email from credit card processing companies specializing in "High Risk" transactions (specifically those accepting payments for rogue/fake anti-spyware programs). If someone would care to go after these processors, then we might be able to make a dent in the problem.


The way to cut off their balls is to stop the flow of money!


Matt Fleming

Alicent Small Business Solutions


natter

join:2000-12-18
Littleton, CO


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I just need to know whom to use now? After I switched from spamhaus (because I can't get to their domain any more) to spamcop, our spam has increased two fold.

Any have a good qmail-rbl list to use?

Thanks.

Oh, and another thing, this is from the other side of the story: »www.e360insight.com/case_history.html

He does have a point, we use Cogent as our Internet hook and our IPs were classifed as spam list IPs. (cogent is host for lots of spammers, porn,etc...) We asked many many times to be switched and only to find ourselves in the same situation. Finally, we got our own IPs and we were done with it. While we had the cogent ips, I attempted to contact spamhaus, spamcop,etc.. the only ones to answer us and allow us to prove that we're a legit ISP was spamcop. spamhaus just ignored us. So, I do see this guy's point. (if he really tried to contact them like he says...)

Reading more of this, whoops, a Lawyer representing Spamhaus located in IL made a signed appearance. »www.e360insight.com/show_case_doc3.pdf
»www.e360insight.com/show_case_doc4.pdf

In looking more at this case, it looks like spamhaus screwed up, fired both their attorneys and hid behind being in another country. This of course is my opinion and I'm basing it off of court papers filed at the above site. Am I missing something here? Looks pretty open and shut. Also, just because they are in another country, it doesn't matter. All the courts have to do is tell Level3, Cogent,etc.. to block all of Spamhaus's IPs and they are done. (well in the US).

Trust me, I hate spammers more than anything, but these guys have to give people a second chance to prove themselves. Like the example I gave above. Spamcop put us on a 'watch list' and said we would be put back on the list if they got more complaints, which of course did happen because some of our customers sent spam via virus and we showed them what action we took,etc.. and they never put us back on. I feel this guy's pain if he is really what he says. (a opt-in marketer..I have my doubts..(
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