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TKJunkMail
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 Clec business has been dead since the .com bust

Clecs have been a dying business ever since the dotcom bust in 2000 and Covad has been part of that. And that business isn't coming back. Getting into wireless in general and Wimax in particular may be their last chance.


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usarules

@dataflo.net
They should make a few $$ of this,
we have Data flo, it's $99 per month, and we have no other options here in wood dale , il

for business broadband.

shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA

reply to TKJunkMail
The CLEC i worked for, Conversent Communications, has been doing very well as an alternative for Business, higher quality and more experienced support. CTC and choice one in the northeast just merged together with them to form One Communications. Glad to see alternatives.

Avanti20

join:2006-03-21
Rochester, NY
Choice One is HQ'd here in Rochester NY, and they are by far the worst provider. They are hemorging customers as soon as the 3-5yr Agreements come due. Absolutely horrible service, and embarasing reliability.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
reply to usarules
Yes you do. It's called a T1. Stop being cheap.


rachelsfx

join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
reply to TKJunkMail
Covad has been bankrupt once. I'm sure it will be again.

I agree their prices are ridiculously high. Double in price to BellSouth I know. "But you get 5 static IPs!" Ummm, so?

Avanti20

join:2006-03-21
Rochester, NY

Covad is interested in T1, VoIP, and High End SDSL products. ADSL isn't something that they're pushing. Go to Bell South, and order an SDSL line, it will be a resold line provided through COVAD. COVAD is targeting business' that want and need more than an ADSL line can provide. Most SDSL in this country comes through Covad whether directly or through a reseller. There is no need to target homes, and VSB's if you're looking for business' with more than 10 users.


KoolMoe
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reply to TKJunkMail
Not just wireless...
A company I work with had a contract with a CLEC for their phone and data service. It just expired so I priced around. Covad had the best deal with their 'CEIA' (dynamic T1) product. The install is underway...

Small business phone and data service is a huge market, especially as the advantages of virtual PBX environments are realized.

Of course, there's a lot of competition in that space as well...and the T1s used to bring those services are still running on ILEC lines, but it's surely a more profitable product than residential DSL.
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kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile :

Yes you do. It's called a T1. Stop being cheap.
Stop being so smart - there are several places where T1 is not available.


patrickbennet

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reply to TKJunkMail
Covad has had its problems, much of it regulatory, but it is about to turn cash-flow positive (4q 06). They have nearly $100 million in cash. I don't see another bankruptcy in the cards.

vavoiper

join:2005-03-08
Falls Church, VA
Yes, but will they ever be able to grow their revenues more than 5% per year? That's the reason (along with your regulatory point) for their anemic stock price.


burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk

join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI

reply to rachelsfx
You don't have to go through Covad to get a Covad circuit. If you get the lower cost Earthlink (or any other Covad partner), you'll get a Covad line for around 30 bucks a month.

Also, if you buy from Covad.net, it's a business class service. I don't even think you can buy residential class service directly from Covad now.

Covad.net is an very small part of their business. They wholesale the majority of their DSL business to partners.

Covad.net is not set up to compete against their bigger wholesale customers, per se. The services Covad.net offers are generally a bit different and focus on business customers.
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