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Re: Difference between 4100 and 5100
OK. Thanks for clarification as usual.  |
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buggage
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Actually, unless I missed something, that's exactly the way it works on retail devices as well.
The hidden profiles can also be set so they show on the user profile page. Of course you do have to enable them to show from a Telnet session. The following is true for all profiles.
cfg upro#0{nl=[y/n] Profile won't/will appear in the login menu.
cfg upro#0{ne=[y/n] Profile won't/will appear in profile wizard page.
In later firmware there are actually up to 5 hidden profiles upro#0-4. |
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Strange as it works different on the Retail Firmware units and the 3 hidden upro# (User Profiles) are only available in Telnet or by Serial connections.
These are the three (3) hidden User Profiles in the 5x00/4x00 series.
upro#0
upro#1
upro#2
Then in the Retail Firmware units it shows the unhidden User Profiles that start at #3 internally, but show up as #0 to #5 on the Web Interface for a total of 8 User Profiles.
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OK! These are the commands to "permanently" assign a logon/password to the AT&T 4100 after you have entered it with a temporary login/password from the SpeedStream 5200 FTP program.
cfg upro#0{usr{un="logon"
cfg upro#0{usr{pw="password"
cfg upro#0{usr{per=0xffffffff
cfg save
do reboot
I can't say if any other upro# will work because I didn't try. The modem responds to the cfg save with a note that the settings are written to NVRAM.
Alternately the commands can be written as
cfg upro#0{usr{un="logon",pw="password",per=0xffffffff
cfg save
do reboot
If you don't like the settings you've changed, a hard reset apparently erases them all and restores the standard AT&T settings as does the command:
do defcfg
A command that you don't want to use is "do mfgdef" which makes the modem inaccessible on the 192.168.0.1 IP and (I'm guessing here) may restore an alternate configuration?
What info can you get out at the CLI that isn't available in the GUI? Well, "show dsl log" gives the following info:
17 seconds into current interval of 900 seconds
Time TxCrcErr TxFecErr RxCrcErr RxFecErr Los Sef LosSec SefSec ErrSec RxBlk TxBlk SNR Atten
00:30:02 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 53181 53181 23.5 30.5
00:15:02 2 34 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 51982 51982 23.5 30.5
Last hour 2 34 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 106164 106165 - -
xsh>
Edit: ... and there is a problem. Once you make a PPPoE connection even when using "PPP on computer" mode, you then are locked out of telnet access which requires a hard reset which loses the "permanent" login/password and all other configuration changes. ... uhh! |
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FWIW, here is the MIB for the 4100 that I walked out. I don't use SNMP that much so I don't know if this has anything of use in it. The MACs for my modem and router have been obfuscated  |
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Great detective work everyone.  Did the command work to leave open FTP/Telnet after the SBC units are configured or not?
telnet 192.168.254.254 (user=efnu password=efnp)
cfg upro{usr{per=0xffffffff
cfg save
do reboot
Read »Need help with telnet access on 5200 for more info.
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Seems the SBC 4100 is pretty much the same as the SBC5100B, but in a new box. They seem to support the same DSL standards...
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This is extracted out of a cfg dump:
dsl
mode = mult [mult,ansi,dmt,lite,dsl2,auto,ds2p,red2,emt,] |
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d_l what does the SBC 4100 return on the "cfg dsl{mode" command? |
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Doctor Olds
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Read this whole thread for a possible FTP/Telnet fix.
»Need help with telnet access on 5200
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Thanks. The CLI commands for Efficient business routers are NOT the same as those for the "intuitive" CLI of the 4100.  
Mostly it is intuitive! I've managed to figure out a few commands (for example, I changed one of the sntp servers and the timezone for the modem), but there are some I'd prefer to avoid until I know more about them. I stumbled into some reset configuration things that I probably shouldn't have tried.
I think I might be able to change the modem's IP and possibly its one DHCP address, but that may screw up the modem too. 
The one thing that I haven't discovered is how to permanently change the login and password for telnet access. The modem may already have an existing login of "lanadmin", but the password is hidden. |
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said by d_l  :So where can we find a CLI manual/summary for the 5100b/4100 modems? Good question. No answer for it though as Siemens/Efficient has not released anything. They have stated repeatedly that the CLI is supposedly intuitive.
It is part of a long list of broken promises. 
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So where can we find a CLI manual/summary for the 5100b/4100 modems? At least, something to give us a hint what some of the commands do before actually running them. I've explored many of them, but there are some that I've avoided for fear of messing up the firmware.
Can the cfg command be used to configure settings or does it only list settings? I answered my own question. |
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That SpeedStream 5200 FTP program also works for the AT&T (SBC)-versioned 4100 modem.
There is also SNMP info available once you have telnet/FTP access to these modems. |
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said by buggage :"auto" - Auto Mode "naam" - No ANSI Auto mode "emt" - Enhanced multimode  Thank you very much, kind sir!!
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"auto" - Auto Mode
"naam" - No ANSI Auto mode
"emt" - Enhanced multimode |
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Doctor Olds
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said by odinb :By the way, what is the NAAM standard that you have on your modem? I'm confused. I have a 5100. You may be thinking of the 6520 I used as an example, but I don't own one, it was from another post and I used it as an example in my post. I don't know what it means. The ones I know are listed below.
mult = MultiMode
ansi = ANSI T.413 [Std ADSL]
dmt = G.DMT [Std ADSL]
lite = G.Lite [Splitter-less ADSL]
dsl2 = ADSL2
auto = ????
ds2p = ADSL2+
red2 = Reach Extended ADSL2
naam = ????
emt = ????
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Well, I do not have the SBC 4100 yet (as stated earlier), it probably arrives in the mail in a couple of days. Signed up for AT&T DSL earlier in the week. Will report back when I get it.
By the way, what is the NAAM standard that you have on your modem? |
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said by odinb :This is what the SBC 5100B reports: "SpeedStream Telnet Server login: 123 password: User logged in xsh> cfg dsl{mode mode = mult [mult,ansi,dmt,lite,dsl2,auto,ds2p,red2,emt] xsh>" Getting Telnet to work on the SBC 5100B required a factory reset, just like Wayjac reported. So, Doctor Olds, does this mean it supports the same standards as the 4100? What does the 4100 Telnet response show? You have to compare the 5100b modes to a 4100 modes (SBC versions) by the output to see if the units are identical or not.
Like I posted:
quote:
You can test the actual units if you have a 5100b and a 4100 (SBC versions) to work with. It will tell you in Telnet what modes are actually supported.
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Wayjac, Doctor Olds,
the 2 last posts was exactly what I neded to get this working.
This is the message Gabriel Strongs application for password reset gave me:
"Packet sent but not received".
This is what the SBC 5100B reports:
"SpeedStream Telnet Server
login: 123
password:
User logged in
xsh> cfg dsl{mode
mode = mult [mult,ansi,dmt,lite,dsl2,auto,ds2p,red2,emt]
xsh>"
Getting Telnet to work on the SBC 5100B required a factory reset, just like Wayjac reported.
So, Doctor Olds, does this mean it supports the same standards as the 4100? |
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