tahoejeff
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| [RANT] vista can only be reintalled once?
i just read that Microsoft is placing limits on the Vista license. you can install it on the original system, and then if your system dies, or you just part it out and build a new one, that's your one allowable reinstall.
i like to build a new pc every 1-3 years, and if what i read is true, i'd have to buy a new copy of vista starting with my 3rd build.
has anyone else heard about this? is it true? if so, i may be sticking with win xp pro once my vista beta expires.
when i choose to build a system rather than buy one, usually the deciding factor to go with a build is that i already own an o/s i can install. i'd be very unhappy if i had to go back to buying Dell.
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CylonRed
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2 edits | No way they will do this - it will be like XP - need to get a new registration # to activate the OS but to buy another copy - no way...
Please post a link to where you read this... |
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mack1951
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Bayonne, NJ | Look here.
»blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=156
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tahoejeff
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»it.slashdot.org/it/06/10/12/2240214.shtml
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CylonRed
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I don't see any chance of this making it into the final EULA when Vista goes to actual release... I am always skeptical of any EULA that is posted and commented on before the final release of the product...
This is just shooting themselves in the foot - although it would almost make sence if they keep DX10 being a Vista only release as most gamers would be forced to go to Vista within a year or so to take advantage of the gmaes coded to DX10...
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Martinus
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It will be interesting to see how this will affect enthusiasts that change hardware frequently, as a mobo/ram/cpu replacement will probably be considered a new system.
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Pirate515
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If this is true, than this truly sucks. First the ridiculous price tag on it, and now this? I understand that Microsoft has a right to crack down on piracy, but to shake down those who purchased a legitimate copy for more money if they replace their system? That's just pure greed IMO.
I hope that whoever the OP got this info from might have not gotten all the facts straight. Maybe Microsoft will indeed do that with OEM versions; after all OEM copies are only licensed to be used on the computer that they were sold with and license cannot be transfered to any other machine. I think this is already being done with XP, Microsoft will not allow you to re-activate an OEM copy on a different machine. And if your computer breaks to the point that the entire machine has to be swapped out, your OEM will have to supply you with a different CD key so that you can activate XP on a replacement machine. However, a retail version should not come with these limitations. You should be able to move it to any computer you like, as long as you stop using it on the old one.
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mack1951
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Bayonne, NJ | Read the post at the link supplied. This is for retail.
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Leathal
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join:2002-02-09
Toronto, ON | reply to tahoejeff
There is one way to make sure this doesn't happen to you! Buy a brand name machine.
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Shootist
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Decatur, GA
| said by Leathal  :There is one way to make sure this doesn't happen to you! Buy a brand name machine. Leathal That is not the point. Why would I want to buy a Dell, or other, branded desktop PC when I can build my own for less, then overclock it to get more then I paid for.
And even if I buy a name brand PC how does that help me if I change out various parts over a period of time. Don't you think MS will now make ALL copies of Vista go through the activation system. Right, with XP from Dell on a Dell PC you do not have to activate when you reinstall. But I suspect that will change with Vista.
Simple, JUST SAY NO TO VISTA. It's not like you are really missing anything other then bloat and making your now FAST PC become slower.
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CylonRed
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Re: [RANT] vista can only be reintalled once?
Real questions is - parts BREAK and it is out of your control. Is MS assuming you will never have a need to replace a video card that went bad or a hard drive - even a CPU or ram that went bad? If they use the hardware profile like with XP - what can you change without using up all of your reinstalls??
This this comes to fruition it is a mere money grab and nothing. They will penalize those folks who need to replace hardware because of failure or to get something newer... All this will do is piss off more people and MS can't afford that...
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Leathal
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Re: [RANT] vista can only be reintalled once?
said by CylonRed :Real questions is - parts BREAK and it is out of your control. Is MS assuming you will never have a need to replace a video card that went bad or a hard drive - even a CPU or ram that went bad? If they use the hardware profile like with XP - what can you change without using up all of your reinstalls?? This this comes to fruition it is a mere money grab and nothing. They will penalize those folks who need to replace hardware because of failure or to get something newer... I am sure there is going to be some tolerance to the rule, it just surprises me that people people have nothing better to do but blow it all to you know what... s$%t!
Vista is not even retail yet so worry about it when does come out in the stores. But like I said already there will be tolerance the rule as Microsoft knows very well that if you buy a machine where the hardware breaks with time, even brand name machines break down, they will have to allow Vista to operate. However there is bound to away for Microsoft to detect if you change your motherboard with a new different brand one which they may choose not to support it which would force you to buy a new version of Vista.
So just wait and see.
This whole whining reminds me of when the were going to pass the helmet law in Ontario for motorcyclist. Bikers were whining a lot, once they passed the law they found a loop hole as the law didn't say were you had to wear your helmet.  They have since then fixed that but people don't whine about it anymore and it's become apart of life.
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Shootist
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Decatur, GA
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Well the whole point to the GA system was to stop piracy and increase there bottom line, ER stop them from losing money because of piracy. You would think once that came about the cost of software would come down. Yeah right. Now that MS has perfected this system they are raising the cost to everyone and to top it off they have so many different version which one is for who. I know that most would be OK with the home version. But if it's anything like XP home, with no ability to change security settings, then I would want the pro version. But which version is the pro version and what outrageous price do they want for it.
Lets face it, it is a operating system. I see no new features in Vista. It doesn't have a better file system, it's the same as XP. What you can't do without the eye candy?? If I'm actually using my PC for what it was intended for I never look at the desktop except at bootup and when shutting down.
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iEvolution
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Surely Microsoft doesn't think their Operating System is THAT stable right? Plus, what about hardware failures? I don't see this one flying. |
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
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said by Shootist :Well the whole point to the GA system was to stop piracy and increase there bottom line, ER stop them from losing money because of piracy. You would think once that came about the cost of software would come down. Yeah right. Now that MS has perfected this system they are raising the cost to everyone and to top it off they have so many different version which one is for who. I know that most would be OK with the home version. But if it's anything like XP home, with no ability to change security settings, then I would want the pro version. But which version is the pro version and what outrageous price do they want for it. Lets face it, it is a operating system. I see no new features in Vista. It doesn't have a better file system, it's the same as XP. What you can't do without the eye candy?? If I'm actually using my PC for what it was intended for I never look at the desktop except at bootup and when shutting down. Not at all sure why this was directed toward me...
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freebird317
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I see more courts cost for M$ in the future. |
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retsam
join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ | reply to tahoejeff
this cant be true, how many time have we bought a motherboard for it only to go bad in a day then the next board the samthing.....ms cant be this stupid. |
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